cc: Nathan Gillett date: Mon Feb 28 14:57:32 2005 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: idag report = and a tough question to: Gabi Hegerl , Tom Crowley , myles , Nathan Gillett , Tim Barnett , Reiner Schnur Dear All, Obviously we should all discuss this when we meet at the end of the month. Tim's idea of an annual meeting would be useful, even if we can't find a champion or a theme for a further 3 years. We have been going for 9 years now, so maybe it is time to call it a day. This isn't a great reason though. If the agencies are keen and I think Anjuli is, probably more so than Ricky, then we should think of something we can do. We are running out of Americans though and need one of you to front it. Maybe this was the idea that Gabi was thinking about suggesting David Karoly. The front person can't be from one of the modelling centres or PCMDI, I would think. Myles could take over, but I'm not sure the US would wear this. Cheers Phil At 22:01 21/02/2005, Gabi Hegerl wrote: Hi funded idag people! We need ca 1 page from you about what you did last year on the grant, and what are your plans for this last year (so far, I only gor a bit from Tim, but TIm, could you add what plan is next year?). I append the work plan in case you can't find it. There is also a really tough question out: What next?? Our grant runs out in early 2006. So this is our last year. We can do two things - decide this is it, we have detected all signals we want to detect as a group and are moving on to other stuff - or do we want to continue? In that case, we'd need a vision and a new group leader. Tom feels he really is burned out and can't really contribute a vision for continuation. If all we do is get some extra money for what we do anyway, its also ethically questionable, at a time of budget shortenings of research in general. If we feel as a group we can contribute (beyond emergency input to agencies, a lot of which we have done lately), then its a different matter. When I talked to Anjuli Bamzai (Rick Petty's successor), she sounded very supportive and assumed that of course we'll go for another round. If we want another round, we would need another enthousiastic person to run this (I can co it again, but don't want to do it alone), and a bit of a twist where we are really interested in going. Such as impacts and extremes, or so. I personally am waffling between stopping here, or going maybe at reduced budget to fund meetings, and some extra work that we would find hard to do on our normal grants but that we find relevant. We might consider explicitly including Dave Karoly (funded, he is not funded right now). Please think about this, and lets come up with an email consensus on this before we meet (we don';t want the agency guys watch us wonder what our purpose is). So I need your opinion on this soon. Gabi -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gabriele Hegerl Division of Earth and Ocean Sciences, Nicholas School for the Environment and Earth Sciences, Box 90227 Duke University, Durham NC 27708 Ph: 919 684 6167, fax 684 5833 email: hegerl@duke.edu, [1]http://www.env.duke.edu/faculty/bios/hegerl.html Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------