cc: Keith Briffa , Tim Osborn date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:17:26 +0000 from: Gerard van der Schrier subject: talk by McIntyre to: Phil Jones Phil, Just came back from a 2-hour long seminar by McIntyre (including discussion). In the talk, he focussed mainly on the Mann et al. reconstruction, flaws in Mann et al's statistical method and the effects of the Bristlecone pines on the reconstruction. Much attention to Mann's response to all this (showing mails etc. as we have come accustomed to). Also the Wahl and Ammann paper was discussed extensively. So in the first 80-ish slides: no mention of Briffa, Osborn or Jones. After that he ran out of time and skipped the parts which related to the CRU reconstructions. He briefly touched upon the truncation of the Briffa et al (2001?) reconstruction in the late 20th century. Obviously, the data-availability was an issue...... He claims to have approached Wahl to write a paper together in which the merits of the reconstruction method are tested extensively. It seems that after initial interest, Wahl opted out. In the (Dutch) media, the McIntyre & McKitrick paper is presented as "evidence" that global warming is not present, or at least that it is part of natural variability. What surprised me is that McIntyre clearly and unequivocally parted with that view. Cheers, Gerard > > Gerard, > Also he may slag off Keith and Tim. Probably best to just listen > and not to try and defend us. There may be some press on this > the week after next as McIntyre is in Stockholm at a meeting earlier > in the week. > > Cheers > Phil > > At 12:28 01/09/2006, you wrote: >> Phil, >> >> Thanks for having a look at the ms. >> >> I think I should be at McIntyre's seminar, but I do not expect to >> hear a balanced view on multiproxy reconstructions (based on his >> abstract). He has been invited by Amsterdam's free university, and >> somebody probably thought it was a nice idea to have him here too. >> >> Cheers, Gerard >>> >>> Gerard, >>> Manuscript fine. I see you'll have a seminar at KNMI >>> by Stephen McIntyre on Sept 14 ! Amazing what you can >>> find on skeptic web sites. If you're there on the day, >>> can you tell me how much he slangs me off during his >>> talk. >>> >>> Away after today until Sept 21. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Phil >>> >>> -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Gerard van der Schrier Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) dept. KS/AS PO Box 201 3730 AE De Bilt The Netherlands schrier@knmi.nl +31-30-2206597 www.knmi.nl/~schrier ----------------------------------------------------------