date: Mon Jul 26 15:59:51 2004 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: to: dwlarson@uoguelph.ca Doug, Glad to hear you've got the paper out. Support hasn't been to bad here over the years. Thatcher was good for climate research - off to have to say it, as she was bad for almost all else. The EU has been good over the years, but the paperwork with all is much worse, especially the EU. A lot less research gets done per pound/euro spent, as there are so many assessments of what's being done - to make sure its all fair and above board. As for a dendro person, there is one Canadian we've worked with a while ago - Brian Luckman at UWO. I don't think Brian would have much truck with Steve though. Main centres in the US are Tucson and Lamont as you know, but they are all sort of in with Mike Mann, Ray Bradley and especially Malcolm Hughes. So finding someone who has the time and patience will be difficult. There is Dave Stahle's group in Arkansas. Not been to a tree-ring meeting for years, so not well up on the up and coming ones. Cheers Phil At 10:22 26/07/2004 -0400, you wrote: HI Phil, By the time I got in this morning there was an acceptance email from CJFR accepting the long chronology paper. Whew!! It's only been 10 friggin years since we first put together the 2787 year chronology!! Governments don't ever see the damage they do when their support comes and goes in pulses. You guys have seen as much of that as any, but I gather that things have stabilized psychologically after Thatcher left. True? I continue to pressure Steven to think about the value of peer-review to all of his issues. I will now try to steer his thinking to the methods we all use to evaluate the work done by our peers. I'm a bit afraid that he will want me to co-authors some of this work, but since Brendan and Ed have always done the actual reconstructions, I'll very uncomfortable to be cited as someone who knows that side of the discipline. Can you suggest anyone else who might already be a hard core dendro person but who would also be inclined to want to write some very critical evaluations of methods?? Doug Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------