cc: "Bette Otto-Bleisner" , "Eystein Jansen" , "Caspar Ammann" ,Keith Briffa date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:44:42 +0100 from: Tim Osborn subject: RE: Wahl & Amman paper to: Jonathan Overpeck , "Wahl, Eugene R" Dear all, the UCAR version is the one to use as that is going to be closest to what actually appears. I think that we looked at this version in late February when revising the text and thus I hope that the text we wrote is consistent with this final UCAR version, and therefore that this version "reflects most accurately the status of the paper as used by the Chapter 6 team when preparing the SOD". To be certain, we should extract the sentences that relate to this paper from the SOD and check with Gene/Caspar that they are consistent with their paper, but I can't find a copy of the *final* SOD to do this. Cheers Tim At 05:58 22/05/2006, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: >Hi Gene - thanks for the update. If Tim/Keith/Caspar want to add >anything (or Martin ask for more clarification), please cc to the >entire list on this email. Sounds like the UCAR version is the one >to consider "official" (right everyone?). > >Thanks again, Peck > >>Hello Peck, Martin, Bette, Eystein, Caspar: >> >>I just double checked the UCAR website version with the pdf version >>I have, and they are identical with the exception that the >>supplemental tables (Tables 1S and 2S), and supplemental figure >>caption and figure (Figure 1S) are placed at the very end of the >>document in the UCAR version. The content is identical in both versions. >> >>The text (including tables and figure captions) of the UCAR pdf is >>also identical to the WORD text that I sent to Peck, Keith Briffa, >>and Eyestein Jansen on February 24. There was a version sent on >>February 21, which the February 24 version superceded. There were >>3 words changed on p. 17, and some changes made to Appendix 1 in >>the February 24 version. Perhaps this difference between the 2/21 >>and 2/24 versions is the cause of the differences that Martin has >>seen. [Note: I would have sent the graphics separately with these >>versions, and I did not keep copies of the sent files in my email >>account -- to deal with memory limits in the system here. Thus, I >>cannot confirm exactly which graphic files are associated with the >>February 24 version. My apologies.] >> >>In summary, the UCAR website pdf document should be considered the >>official one that is "accepted/in press". Formal notification of >>acceptance from Stephen Schneider at Climatic Change came on >>February 28. The article is still in this status. >> >>Let me know if I can help clarify things futher. Please note that >>I will be in Boulder starting May 27, to be a visiting scholar at >>NCAR for a month. I will be keeping up with email from there. >> >> >>Peace, Gene >>Dr. Eugene R. Wahl >>Asst. Professor of Environmental Studies >>Alfred University >> >>607-871-2604 >>1 Saxon Drive >>Alfred, NY 14802 >>________________________________ >> >>From: Jonathan Overpeck [mailto:jto@u.arizona.edu] >>Sent: Sat 5/20/2006 8:39 PM >>To: Martin Manning >>Cc: Bette Otto-Bleisner; Eystein Jansen; Caspar Ammann; Wahl, Eugene R >>Subject: Re: Wahl & Amman paper >> >>Hi Martin - We'll look into this asap. I'll cc to Caspar and Gene >>to see if they can clarify the situation and make sure we have the >>correct version. I'll also cc Bette since she may see Caspar around >>NCAR and make sure he know's we are trying to clarify things with his paper. >> >>More soon, thx, Peck >> >> >> Dear Eystein and Jonathan >> >> It has been pointed out to us by a reviewer that the >> version of the Wahl and Amman paper (accepted by Climatic Change) >> on our review web site differs from the version that is available >> publicly from the NCAR web site at: >> >> >> [ >> >>http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/ccr/ammann/millennium/refs/WahlAmmann_ClimaticChange_inPress.pdf >> >> ] >> >> >> Although the differences are not (in my view) substantial, >> the paper on the NCAR web site is apparently dated Feb 24th (i.e. >> before the date of final submission of the SOD), it has additional >> figures and data, and the running header says "Feb 24, .... in press". >> >> Could you please clarify which of the two versions of this >> paper would reflect most accurately the status of the paper as >> used by the Chapter 6 team when preparing the SOD. That has been >> our basis for deciding on which version to include on our reviewer >> web pages up until now, but we are now reconsidering whether to >> also include updated versions of unpublished papers as well. If >> you have any thoughts on that please let me know. >> >> Best regards >> Martin >> >> >> -- >> Recommended Email address: mmanning@al.noaa.gov >> ** Please note that problems may occur with my @noaa.gov address >> Dr Martin R Manning, Director, IPCC WG I Support Unit >> NOAA Aeronomy Laboratory Phone: +1 >> 303 497 4479 >> 325 Broadway, DSRC R/CSD8 Fax: +1 303 497 5628 >> Boulder, CO 80305, USA >> >> >> >>-- >>Jonathan T. Overpeck >>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>Professor, Department of Geosciences >>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences >> >>Mail and Fedex Address: >> >>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >>University of Arizona >>Tucson, AZ 85721 >>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >>fax: +1 520 792-8795 >>http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >>http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > > >-- >Jonathan T. Overpeck >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >Professor, Department of Geosciences >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > >Mail and Fedex Address: > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >University of Arizona >Tucson, AZ 85721 >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >fax: +1 520 792-8795 >http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm