cc: "David J. Thomson" date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:23:57 -0400 (EDT) from: "David J. Thomson" subject: Re: Congratulations to: Phil Jones Phil, Thanks for the "heads-up" on this one. I just printed Keenan's note from "Theor. Appl. Climatol" (who publishes this, Exxon?) and it doesn't appear to be much of a paper. (Mind you, I wasn't all that impressed with Chiune's analysis plus a similar one on the Kyoto cherry blossom series: they are both a bit too simple given the apparent statistics of the process. As a guess, about half-right.) But I'll be cautious about how I say things - there seem to be a lot of people out there, such as the gang Mike Mann was harassed by, who, I suspect are being funded by the oil and coal companies to attempt to cast doubt on otherwise reasonable papers. One advantage of being a "Chartered Statistician" is, so far, they haven't given me too much flak... Cheers Dave On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Phil Jones wrote: > > David, > Thanks! I couldn't make the AGU in Toronto, as I was already booked up > for a meeting in Finland the same week. > > I'd be interested in seeing the Pinot Noir paper when you have something. > You're probably aware of some controversy about another grape harvest paper > by Chiune et al that was in Nature. > > http://www.informath.org/ > > I'd be very wary about having any involvement with Douglas Keenan. I'm > involved in an issue with him related to Wei-Chyung Wang who works at SUNY > at Albany. > > Pascal Yiou has tried to discuss things with him, but given up. > > Cheers > Phil > > > At 21:05 29/06/2009, you wrote: > >> Phil, >> Hoped to see you at Spring AGU but apparently you didn't >> come this year. In any event, I see that you have been made a >> fellow, so congratulations. It's always nice to see people get >> recognized for something where they have made a real contribution. >> (I expect that this is true in most cases, but I don' know >> enough about things like geodesy or plate tectonics to appreciate >> what is involved, but I've used your data and consider the >> honour well deserved.) >> >> Life here is much as normal, too much to do, too little >> time, etc. Actually, I can't complain too badly, I won a Killam >> research fellowship that buys me out of committees and teaching >> for two years starting in Sept. It's to work on space physics >> (mostly Ulysses and ACE data) and solar modes. When we first said >> that we were seeing solar modes in space (in 1995) people thought >> it was impossible, but have a paper in press at AGU by S Ghosh, >> me, etc. showing that, when does the calculations in 3 space dimensions >> instead of 1, the modes propage just fine; so slow progress. >> I'm also doing some work on climate; have a paper on the French >> Pinot Noir harvest date series in the works with a student. >> We gave a preliminary talk at AGU and also have another talk >> accepted for the RSS in September. It has a lot of interesting >> nonstationarity. >> >> Again, congratulations and well deserved. (An interesting question >> just prompted by reading a biography of Jeans - should the congratulations >> go to you, or to the committee for making a good choice?) >> >> Sincerely >> David Thomson > > Prof. Phil Jones > Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 > School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 > University of East Anglia > Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk > NR4 7TJ > UK > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >