date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:08:57 -0400 from: Michael Mann subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Blog Swap with Solve Climate]] to: Phil Jones Hey Phil, Please see the below--any update on the Wengen paper? It appears that McIntyre is trying to scoop us, must have somehow learned that we've tracked this down. It would be nice for the paper to be officially 'accepted' before he figures the story out, mike -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Blog Swap with Solve Climate] Date: 09 May 2008 19:01:30 -0400 From: Gavin Schmidt [1] To: Michael E. Mann [2] CC: Stefan Rahmstorf [3] References: [4]<43049.169.154.204.2.1210371731.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> [5]<4824D71A.4020708@meteo.psu.edu> I saw... but I think we'll weather the storm. the followup post needs to be soon though. On another subject, McIntyre has worked out where IPCC 1990 fig 7.2 has came from (almost). We are being scooped! (More to the point, what is the status of the Wengen paper and can we do the origin post at some point? Not too soon obviously!) Gavin On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 18:58, Michael Mann wrote: > unfortunately, for every one of those, there's one of these: > > Jim Cross Says: > 8 May 2008 at 6:50 PM edit > > I must have missed a link to the full article along the way. I only > see links to the abstract. > > This is very sad that RC has been reduced to a carnival like betting > on global warming. > > or these: > 1. Gareth John Evans Says: > 8 May 2008 at 5:12 PM edit > > Shame on RealClimate for turning a serious scientific subject > into a bet. If these authors are wrong please use the > scientific method - evidence, reasoning, and yes climate > models (if predictions vary) to convince others. > > Gareth Evans > > > neither can be dismissed as a denialist troll. > > we really did seem to offend a lot of normally supportive people w/ > this one, right or wrong... > > mike > > [6]contrib@realclimate.org wrote: > > see, some people liked it.... > > > > gavin > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > > Subject: Blog Swap with Solve Climate > > From: "Teresa Herrmann" [7] > > Date: Fri, May 9, 2008 11:36 am > > To: [8]contrib@realclimate.org > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Dear Real Climate, > > We at SolveClimate.com frequently read your site and enjoy the scientific > > commentary that you add to the climate change debate. Yesterday's article > > describing a proposed bet against the authors of "Advancing decadal-scale > > climate prediction in the North Atlantic sector" was informative and funny, > > and was passed around the office several times. > > > > We were wondering if you would be interested in swapping blog rolls? We have > > had you listed on our blog roll for quite some time. > > > > Please consider. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Teresa Herrmann > > SolveClimate.com > > 314-517-2327 > > [9]teresa.sciencefirst@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Michael E. Mann > Associate Professor > Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) > > Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 > 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 > The Pennsylvania State University email: [10]mann@psu.edu > University Park, PA 16802-5013 > > [11]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm > -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [12]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [13]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm