cc: Christoph Kull , Christoph Kull , rbradley@geo.umass.edu, jan.esper@wsl.ch, anders@misu.su.se, k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, wanner@giub.unibe.ch, p.jones@uea.ac.uk, tcrowley@duke.edu, Thorsten Kiefer date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:46:28 -0400 from: Julie Brigham-Grette subject: Re: Past Millennia Variability to: "Michael E. Mann" Yes, this change sounds great and most appropriate Mike. thanks...Julie BG (from Salt Lake) Christoph, Looks pretty good in general, but there is big problem in wording here: * Late 20th century warming is most probably anomalous regarding the past 1000 years. However, due to the much sparser network, and generally unreliable character of proxy data compared to the modern instrumental network, a solid conclusion about the uniqueness of the recent warmth cannot yet be definitive. I don't think that this group would agree that "generally unreliable character" is an appropriate description. I would suggest something more akin to the following, and would be interested in any other thoughts be have on this: Late 20th century warming is likely anomalous in the context of the past 1000 years. However, due to the much sparser available data, and the more uncertain character of proxy data compared to the modern instrumental network, a more definitive conclusion is not yet possible. thanks, mike At 08:21 AM 6/28/2005, Christoph Kull wrote: Dear all, After including your comments, the document regarding "Past Millennia Variability" increased in length :-)! Thanks a lot for your edits. It is the idea to use this statement as a "working-basis" for a planned related workshop under the umbrella of PAGES-CLIVAR. Finally (after a wider discussion) a revised version may become a background statement for future research activities. Feel free to send me your comments. All the best and greetings from the PAGES office in Bern, Christoph -- Christoph Kull Science Officer PAGES IPO Sulgeneckstrasse 38 CH-3007 Bern Switzerland phone: +4131 312 31 53/33 fax: +4131 312 31 68 ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml -- <<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>> "I love deadlines. I love the wooshing sound they make as they go by." --- Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Julie Brigham-Grette, Professor Dept of Geosciences 611 N. Pleasant Street Morrill Science Building University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Phone: 413-545-4840 // FAX: 413-545-1200 Email: juliebg@geo.umass.edu Web Site: www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/jbg PAGES SSC Chair: http://www.pages.unibe.ch/ AMQUA: http://www4.nau.edu/amqua/ <<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>