date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:55:30 -0400
from: epsl <hilst-epsl@MIT.EDU>
subject: Re: Reviewer Invitation for EPSL-D-07-00839
to: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

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Thank you very much for the reviews, Phil.  And I apologize for the 
shape of the first one - with all the edits and so.  This version was a 
revision of an earlier one, which I had rejected.  Effectively, it was a 
copy to help me understand where the changes were made - but I should 
have asked the authors to present a clean version.  Mea Culpa.  Best, Rob

Phil Jones wrote:

>
>  Rob,
>     Have just submitted my reviews for both papers. The second is much 
> shorter, as
>  all the comments here (Blanter et al) are the same as for the other 
> paper. Authors
>  will get all as they are the same 4 but in a different order.
>     Both papers awful and should be rejected. They clearly don't know 
> the climate
>  literature - and like many seem not to want to accept that the 
> climate is changing
>  because of our emissions of greenhouse gases.
>     Solar variability/climate relationships (use to be called 
> solar/weather relationships)
>  have generally been awful articles for decades. I'm not sure why 
> Barrie Pittock decided to
>  write the paper I referred to in 1983 (and the earlier one in 1978), 
> but I'm glad he
>  did. I have referred to this paper a few times in articles I've 
> written, but I've
>  referred to it much more in rejecting articles of this type.
>     There is really only one paper where a solar influence on climate 
> on decadal
>  and longer timescales that has been shown to be possible (i.e. it 
> passes Pittock's
>  criteria).
>
>  Cheers
>  Phil
>
>
> At 12:26 18/10/2007, you wrote:
>
>> Dear Phil, that is what I thought also and that is indeed why I very 
>> much appreciate you (and the other reviewers) having  look at both of 
>> them.  I look forward to reading your report.  Best, Rob
>> (Last Monday I spent 70 mins waiting for a commuter train that never 
>> showed up - can be quite productive indeed, but very irritating also)
>>
>> Phil Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  Rob,
>>>     I've begun to look at them - train delay yesterday, so it may 
>>> not be too long.
>>>  There is also a lot of similarity between them, so it's not as 
>>> though there were
>>>  two independent papers.
>>>
>>>  Cheers
>>>  Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:03 15/10/2007, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Phil,
>>>>
>>>> I very much appreciate this -- thanks! If I have the reviews by 
>>>> mid-November that would be great, but if you need more time, just 
>>>> let me know.
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Rob,
>>>>>     I will try and do these two reviews. As there are two, it will 
>>>>> likely take the
>>>>>  full 21 days, but I do have some travel so will get a chance to 
>>>>> read the pair.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Best Regards
>>>>>  Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 20:28 13/10/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms. Ref. No.:  EPSL-D-07-00839
>>>>>> Title: Evidence for Solar Forcing in Variability of Pressures and 
>>>>>> Temperatures in Europe
>>>>>> Authors: Elena Blanter; Jean-Louis Le Mouël; Mikhail Shnirman; 
>>>>>> Vincent Emmanuel Courtillot, PhD
>>>>>> Journal: Earth and Planetary Science Letters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Phil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the second part of my request.  I hope you can help. 
>>>>>> Since the two papers are closely related, I would very much 
>>>>>> appreciate your views on the merit of two separate papers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are available to review this manuscript, please click on 
>>>>>> the link below:
>>>>>> http://ees.elsevier.com/epsl/l.asp?i=23850&l=9KZXA957
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you accept this invitation, I would be very grateful if you 
>>>>>> would return your review within 21 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are not available to review this manuscript, please click 
>>>>>> on the link below. We would appreciate receiving suggestions for 
>>>>>> alternative reviewers:
>>>>>> http://ees.elsevier.com/epsl/l.asp?i=23849&l=9H07Q3SG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you prefer, you may register your response to this invitation 
>>>>>> online, by accessing the Elsevier Editorial System for Earth and 
>>>>>> Planetary Science Letters as a REVIEWER:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> url: http://ees.elsevier.com/epsl/
>>>>>> Your username is: PJones-929
>>>>>> Your password is: jones26322
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please select the "New Invitations" link on your Main Menu, then 
>>>>>> choose to "Accept" or "Decline" this invitation, as appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you accept this invitation, you may submit your completed 
>>>>>> review online at the above URL. There you will find spaces for 
>>>>>> confidential comments to the editor and comments for the author.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To assist you in the reviewing process, I am delighted to offer 
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> With kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob D. van der Hilst
>>>>>> Editor
>>>>>> Earth and Planetary Science Letters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ABSTRACT:
>>>>>> We study the solar signature in the temporal evolution of 
>>>>>> disturbances of European temperature and pressure in the 20th 
>>>>>> century, using long series of daily data provided by 
>>>>>> meteorological stations. We use three independent indices of 
>>>>>> solar activity which exhibit similar evolution after 22-yr 
>>>>>> running averaging. With the same 22-yr averaging, disturbances of 
>>>>>> temperature and pressure are found to be dominated by wintertime 
>>>>>> perturbations. The solar signature in the wintertime disturbances 
>>>>>> is especially strong throughout the 20-th century and does not 
>>>>>> weaken in the last decades, contrary to what happens for whole 
>>>>>> year data. Disturbances of minimal temperature, pressure and wind 
>>>>>> direction in the wintertime display remarkable similarity: All 
>>>>>> these meteorological (actually almost climatic, given the 22-yr 
>>>>>> averaging) characteristics closely follow the solar signature as 
>>>>>> far as the winter season is concerned, even when little or no 
>>>>>> correlation is observed for the whole year. We
>>>>>> discuss the particular features of European climate and speculate 
>>>>>> on how solar forcing may manifest itself in other regions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>>>> Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>>>> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>>>> University of East Anglia
>>>>> Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
>>>>> NR4 7TJ
>>>>> UK 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>> Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>> University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
>>> NR4 7TJ
>>> UK 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>>
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
> NR4 7TJ
> UK 
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