date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:49:02 -0500 from: "Michael E. Mann" subject: Re: CLIVAR abstract to: Keith Briffa Hi Keith, Thanks for the clarification. I have seen the zero order draft and have looked over it, though not yet in full detail. On the whole appears quite fair, and balanced, and comprehensive. Very nice job! I still think the borehole discussion is a bit unbalanced. It sounds a lot like Henry Pollock to me. The Gonzalez-Rouco simulation is, as we know, somewhat questionable, and there is no discussion of the GISS simulation by Mann and Schmidt which suggests a likely low-frequency bias. So I'm likely to comment on this in my "official" remarks as a reviewer for the chapter (seems a bit odd that I'm both a contributor and reviewer, but as long as you all don't mind, I don't either). Other than that, I think my comments will probably be minor (you know how rare that is!). I see that the comments are due in early April, so I'll probably wait until it gets close so that I can provide an update on the status of in-review/in-press manuscripts. For example, I'm hoping to work w/ Phil on a sort-of response to Moberg et al, which should be quite clarifying (we can get the same result as them, basically, using the Mann and Jones series and a similar approach to what they did, but I think I can show that the approach does very poorly w/ pseudoproxies). By the way, the Mann et al J. Climate letter on the CCSM Pseudoproxy experiments in now provisionally accepted. Will keep you updated. Thanks again for keeping me updated, and congratulations on a wonderful job w/ the ZOD. Its an improvement on what we had in the TAR for sure, and I really like the fact that it gives justice to the large amount of work that has been done by the community since then... thanks again, mike (At 03:50 AM 2/9/2005, you wrote: Sorry !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can see that I am in "headless chicken mode" - no idea how this message got reworked into my inbox! Have you seen the zero order draft ? Where are we with balancing views? Keith At 16:54 08/02/2005, you wrote: HI Keith, Thanks--this is a very old message. I think we provided this abstract many months ago already. SO, unless I misunderstand, nothing for us to do here, I think?? Mike At 11:33 AM 2/8/05, Keith Briffa wrote: Mike just seen this email - please forward their request again and I will look again cheers Keith At 22:43 12/11/2003, you wrote: Dear Keith, No doubt you got the reminder that the CLIVAR folks want a (400 word) abstract from us by Dec 15th for the June meeting. Did you want to take the first stab at this, then we can iterate back and forth a bit? let me know how you want to proceed w/ this... Thanks, mike ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [2]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ _______________________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [3]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [4]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [5]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml