cc: Ulrich Cubasch ,k.briffa@uea date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:09:19 +0100 from: Tim Osborn subject: Re: Your involvement in SOAP to: Reiner Schnur Reiner, Thank you for your helpful and very positive reply. It is reassuring that you will continue to work in similar areas and have some interaction with SOAP. I've cc'd this to Keith too, so he can see what you've written. To help the collaboration we will invite you to some of the SOAP project meetings too (not sure about travel money, but we might have some in the coordinator's budget that could be used on external experts). And I'll leave you on the SOAP mailing list (but apologies for the irrelevant e-mails about budgets and forms that you will receive over the next few weeks!). Best regards Tim At 15:37 12/04/02, Reiner Schnur wrote: >Hi Tim, > >I'm cc'ing my reply to Uli ... > > > You will, of course, know about Uli's move from Hamburg to Berlin in a few > > months time - and that he is making arrangements to move the SOAP project > > with him. I was wondering how this affects you. Does this mean that you > > will have no involvement in SOAP at all (in which case you may prefer > it if > > I removed you from the SOAP mailing list)? This would be a shame, > > especially given the amount of time you spent in helping to prepare the > > proposal, but also because your scientific input would have been > > valuable. > > > > Or is there still the chance for you to be involved in some way > > in the project (are you interested?)? Uli said that the move to Berlin > > wouldn't affect the ECHAM simulation, but that the detection and Bayesian > > work might be difficult - but also that these might have been difficult to > > do even if the project stayed in Hamburg (because it is MAD not MPI and > > because you might not stay at MPI). Anyway, I was just hoping to find out > > what you think about all this. > >There are two points I want to make on this: > >1) Since MPI was not officially involved in the project anyway my >involvement would've always been on the basis of interest and providing >scientific input, even if Ili had stayed in Hamburg. I don't see much of >a difference now that he will go to Berlin. In any case, he will hire a >person to do the SOAP work. And since I don't have a patent on either >detection or the Bayesian stuff that person will be able to do at least >some of that work too, and I'll be happy to be of assistance. > >2) You know about that detection work group funded by DOE/NOAA and >coordinated by Tim Barnett. The last project period is coming to an end >now, but we've got approval for a new 3-year round which will now be >coordinated by Tom Crowley, Gabi Hegerl and Myles Allen (Tim Barnett is >stepping down). Our work plan for the next three years focuses on >regional detection, but also detection in the paleo context. So there's >some overlap with the SOAP project and I think we can complement each >other in this work. What this means is that I will be working on much of >the detection and Bayesian stuff we have in the SOAP proposal in the >context of the DOE/NOAA project, and I don't see any problems to do this >in close collaberation with Uli and the person he will hire for SOAP. I >therefore don't see a need to change the SOAP work plan. > >Let me know your opinion on this ... Uli, any comments? > >Cheers, Reiner > >PS. And yes, please leave me on the SOAP mailing list :-) >-- >Dr. Reiner Schnur >Max-Planck-Institute of Meteorology, Bundesstr. 55, D-20146 Hamburg, >Germany >e-mail: schnur@dkrz.de phone: +49 40 41173-379 fax: +49 >40441751 Dr Timothy J Osborn | phone: +44 1603 592089 Senior Research Associate | fax: +44 1603 507784 Climatic Research Unit | e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk School of Environmental Sciences | web-site: University of East Anglia __________| http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ Norwich NR4 7TJ | sunclock: UK | http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm