cc: "Jones Philip Prof \" , "Osborn Timothy Dr \" , "mcgarvie michael mr \" date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:59:37 +0100 (BST) from: P.Jones@uea.ac.uk subject: RE: FOI - the issue with IPCC that is going to the Commissioner to: "Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\)" Dave, Getting IPCC to move and do something has been the key. Being a UN-type organization we may end up with some sort of fudge, but the key players here all know that they need to do something. I'm not seeing too much of Venice! It is hot and very sticky, and quite a few mozzies in the evening. See you on Monday. Cheers Phil > Phil, > Thanks for your efforts and engagement in this process. I can use what > you have stated here I think, and, in reality, I suspect that the case > will not be assessed prior to October (unless fast-tracked by the ICO), > so we may be in a position to add the IPCC position as supplemental > evidence later on (and indeed, if the ICO knows that the IPCC is > considering their position, they may defer a judgement until in > possession of the IPCC position) > Thanks for acting as 'our' advocate there.... > By the way, if the IPCC wants input on UK FOIA/EIR legislation at their > meeting in October, I'm sure that I could fit a trip to Bali in! ;-) > > Cheers, Dave > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: P.Jones@uea.ac.uk [mailto:P.Jones@uea.ac.uk] >>Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:12 AM >>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Osborn Timothy Dr (ENV) >>Cc: "Mcgarvie Michael Mr \" , "Jones Philip >>Prof \" >>Subject: FOI - the issue with IPCC that is going to the Commissioner >> >> >> Tim, Dave, >> I've spoken to Renate Christ who is head of the IPCC Secretariat >> in Geneva. I've given her a note about what we want, but we won't >> get a response by our August deadline. >> What will happen though is that the whole issue of National >>FOIs/EIRs >> will be discussed at the next full IPCC plenary meeting in >> Bali in October. This is not a meeting that many scientists will >> go to. IPCC have got lawyers involved from their sponsoring >> UN organizations (UNEP and WMO). They have been alerted up to >>the issue by >> us and by others (mainly from US organizations like NOAA, DoE). They >> will come to a ruling then. >> I know this doesn't help us for this request, but hopefully >> future IPCC-related FOIs/EIRs will be easier to deal with. >> >> It seems as though they are taking the issue seriously. I did tell >> them that the various FOI acts probably differ slightly, but they >> seem to be aware of that. >> >> Cheers >> Phil >> >> >> >