date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:13:32 +0100 (BST) from: "Tim Osborn" subject: [Fwd: Re: Irritating science queries] to: K.Briffa@uea.ac.uk Hi Keith -- some minor query Mike wanted to let us know about, re Burger's comment on our paper. Hopefully he's already dealt with it by pointing the enquirer to our published response. -- Tim ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Re: Irritating science queries] From: "Michael E. Mann" Date: Wed, September 26, 2007 6:11 pm To: "Tim Osborn" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim, I hope all is well w/ you.  Just wanted to give you a heads up on this, mike -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Irritating science queries
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:10:49 -0400
From: Michael E. Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
Reply-To: mann@psu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Meteorology, Penn State University
To: quotable@telus.net
References: <001101c80054$c6f818a0$6400a8c0@Littlemore>


Hey Richard,

Thanks for the heads up on this. This is cherry-picking at its worst, the sort of thing we have of course learned to expect from charlatans like McIntyre. I guess its the flavor of the day in their desperate ongoing disinformation campaign.

Gerd Burger did indeed publish a comment criticizing the process by which proxy data were selected in the paper by Osborn and Briffa '06 reinforcing the conclusion that late 20th century warmth was anomalous in the context of the past 1000 years.  But the Burger criticism was definitively rebutted in the response by Osborn and Briffa, which I have attached, which was published back-to-back w/ the criticism. The rebuttal, in my view, settles the matter. The Osborn and Briffa '06 conclusions stand without modification.

You might get in touch w/ Tim Osborn for more information, feel free to use my name. His email is: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk

I hope that's helpful,

mike

Richard Littlemore wrote:
Hi Michael,
I'm a DeSmogBlog writer (I got your email from Kevin Grandia) and I am trying to fend off the latest announcement that global warming has not actually occurred in the 20th century.
It looks to me like Gerd Burger is trying to deny climate change by "smoothing," "correcting" or otherwise rounding off the temperatures that we know for a flat fact have been recorded since the 1970s, but I am out of my depth (as I am sure you have noticed: we're all about PR here, not much about science) so I wonder if you guys have done anything or are going to do anything with Burger's intervention in Science.
I'd be delighted for any response, no matter how brief, or for directions to any existing critique.
Thx,
r
 
ps
(My apologies if I have missed it, but the search function on your site is down - the server says you're probably being too successful).
 
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Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University      email:  mann@psu.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm