From: Keith Briffa To: "Ricardo Villalba" Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure Date: Thu Jul 21 15:43:01 2005 Cc: "Jonathan Overpeck" , , , "Tim Osborn" Ricardo Tim is contacting Henry now - so forget Boreholes for time being cheers Keith At 15:23 21/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote: Hi Keith and all, Following Peck's advise I will include for each reconstruction the observed record. Obviously, I have the Patagonian instrumental records, but I need from Ed the Tasmania and Hokitika (New Zealand) observed records. Sorry for my ignorance on borehole, but I am not familiar with Henry's work. If you send me his e-mail, I could ask him for the data and a line of text on borehole from the SH. Cheers, Ricardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Briffa" To: "Ricardo Villalba" ; "Jonathan Overpeck" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:51 AM Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure Hi Ricardo and all this all seems fine with me - the question of the temperature observations is a moot one - but some included seems a good idea - 1 South American and 1 New Zealand is fine - length not as important as proximity to the records shown (but need to see what they l;look like). will wait on other numbers - Henry is best qualified to cite most appropriate SH borehole data and could supply a line of text . Ricardo can you ask him for these? best wishes Keith At 13:52 20/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote: >Hi Keith, Ed, Peck, Eystein > > > >Regarding Peck's suggestions, > > >1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact. > > > >Rio de Janeiro, starting in 1851, is the longest, homogeneous temperature >record from the Southern Hemisphere. In New Zealand and Australia, >temperature records start at the same time. We do not have any long record >for the 18th century, even the first half of the 19th century. The >hemispheric record from the Southern Hemisphere will be discussed in Chapter >2 and we do not have any additional information to provide. > > >2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed) > > > >Definitely!! I do not have the records here in Mendoza. Keith, do you have >access to these data? As soon as I receive the borehole records I will >incorporate them in the figures. I would appreciate receiving the key >references to properly cite the records. > > >3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty >please...) to draft the final figure so that it >matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is >this ok, and do you have the data to do the job. >If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send >upon request? > > > >At the time the figure is ready, I will send all the data to Keith and Tim >to draft the final figure, and the final text to incorporate in the FOD. >Cheers, > >Ricardo > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Overpeck" >To: "Ricardo Villalba" >Cc: "Keith Briffa" ; ; >"Eystein Jansen" >Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:55 PM >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure > > >Hi SH gang - Thanks for keeping things moving >Ricardo. Eystein and I just discussed this fig on >the phone and would like to suggest the following: > >1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact. >2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed) >3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty >please...) to draft the final figure so that it >matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is >this ok, and do you have the data to do the job. >If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send >upon request? > >Many thanks, Peck and Eystein > > >Dear Keith and Ed, > > > >Please, find attached the new version of the SH figure for the IPCC. I >have > >now included the New Zealand record. All the records have been scaled to 4 > >°C amplitude. Variability in the Tas record is reduced compared to New > >Zealand and Patagonian records. The reference lines is the mean used for >the > >calibration period in each record, 15 C for New Zealand, 14.95 C for > >Tasmania and 0 C for the Patagonian records (they show departures). Please, > >let me know if you want to introduce some changes in the figure. The > >opposite phase in the Patagonia-New Zealand records is so clear before >1850, > >which is consistent with our previous TPI. For instance, in the >instrumental > >record the 1971 and 1976 are the coolest summer in northern Patagonian > >during the past 70 years, but the warmest in New Zealand reconstruction!! > >This out of phase relationship between regions in the Southern Hemisphere > >points out to the difficulty of using few records to get a hemispheric > >average. Cheers, > > > >Ricardo > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jonathan Overpeck" > >To: "edwardcook" > >Cc: "Keith Briffa" <>; "Ricardo Villalba" ; > >"Eystein Jansen" <> > >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:09 PM > >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure > > > > > >Thanks Ed - Ricardo, can you get the data from Henry? What do you think, > >Keith? > >Best, Peck > > > >>Given the nature of the SH and what Ricardo put > >>together, I would keep the Australian and South > >>Aftrican borehole records separate. Henry > >>Pollack can provide them, I am sure. He gave an > >>excellent talk at a meeting in Canberra that I > >>recently participated in. > >> > >>Cheers, > >> > >>Ed > >> > >>P.S. Ricardo, here is the Oroko temperature reconstruction. > >> > >>JANUARY-MARCH TEMPERATURES RECONSTRUCTED FROM > >>OROKO SWAMP, NEW ZEALAND SILVER PINE TREE RINGS > >>BE ADVISED THAT THE DATA AFTER 1958 ARE INSTRUMENTAL > >>TEMPERATURES > >> YEAR TEMP °C > >> 900 13.751 > >> 901 14.461 > >> 902 13.236 > >> 903 13.331 > >> 904 13.483 > >> 905 13.632 > >> 906 12.959 > >> 907 13.628 > >> 908 13.372 > >> 909 12.868 > >> 910 13.244 > >> 911 13.793 > >> 912 14.048 > >> 913 14.444 > >> 914 13.095 > >> 915 14.036 > >> 916 13.215 > >> 917 13.698 > >> 918 13.570 > >> 919 13.665 > >> 920 13.871 > >> 921 13.966 > >> 922 14.762 > >> 923 14.325 > >> 924 14.077 > >> 925 14.713 > >> 926 14.081 > >> 927 14.218 > >> 928 13.793 > >> 929 14.151 > >> 930 14.985 > >> 931 13.599 > >> 932 14.663 > >> 933 14.110 > >> 934 14.968 > >> 935 14.391 > >> 936 15.484 > >> 937 15.554 > >> 938 14.977 > >> 939 15.303 > >> 940 15.179 > >> 941 15.591 > >> 942 14.737 > >> 943 14.007 > >> 944 14.865 > >> 945 14.449 > >> 946 14.350 > >> 947 15.096 > >> 948 15.257 > >> 949 15.789 > >> 950 15.303 > >> 951 15.513 > >> 952 16.111 > >> 953 15.723 > >> 954 15.459 > >> 955 14.015 > >> 956 13.083 > >> 957 13.850 > >> 958 14.069 > >> 959 13.772 > >> 960 14.873 > >> 961 14.692 > >> 962 14.923 > >> 963 14.527 > >> 964 15.034 > >> 965 14.688 > >> 966 14.486 > >> 967 14.444 > >> 968 14.436 > >> 969 13.776 > >> 970 13.809 > >> 971 14.391 > >> 972 13.487 > >> 973 13.995 > >> 974 14.061 > >> 975 14.321 > >> 976 14.882 > >> 977 14.226 > >> 978 14.977 > >> 979 15.447 > >> 980 14.424 > >> 981 14.923 > >> 982 14.180 > >> 983 15.484 > >> 984 13.487 > >> 985 14.168 > >> 986 14.176 > > > 987 15.699 > >> 988 15.187 > >> 989 16.305 > >> 990 14.845 > >> 991 14.647 > >> 992 15.765 > >> 993 14.754 > >> 994 14.271 > >> 995 13.623 > >> 996 14.300 > >> 997 13.937 > >> 998 14.040 > >> 999 14.011 > >> 1000 12.976 > >> 1001 13.904 > >> 1002 13.500 > >> 1003 13.586 > >> 1004 14.090 > >> 1005 13.809 > >> 1006 13.413 > >> 1007 13.318 > >> 1008 13.892 > >> 1009 14.151 > >> 1010 14.391 > >> 1011 13.793 > >> 1012 14.626 > >> 1013 13.755 > >> 1014 13.838 > >> 1015 13.017 > > > 1016 13.083 > >> 1017 13.549 > >> 1018 13.471 > >> 1019 13.087 > >> 1020 13.458 > >> 1021 13.203 > >> 1022 14.090 > >> 1023 13.574 > >> 1024 13.755 > >> 1025 13.826 > >> 1026 13.137 > >> 1027 13.194 > >> 1028 14.036 > >> 1029 13.091 > >> 1030 13.768 > >> 1031 13.813 > >> 1032 13.846 > >> 1033 13.871 > >> 1034 14.255 > >> 1035 14.370 > >> 1036 13.805 > >> 1037 14.576 > >> 1038 13.504 > >> 1039 13.867 > >> 1040 14.927 > >> 1041 14.420 > >> 1042 15.661 > >> 1043 15.484 > >> 1044 15.595 > >> 1045 14.741 > >> 1046 13.644 > >> 1047 14.271 > >> 1048 14.288 > >> 1049 13.661 > >> 1050 13.665 > >> 1051 13.298 > >> 1052 14.003 > >> 1053 13.826 > >> 1054 13.788 > >> 1055 13.768 > >> 1056 12.976 > >> 1057 13.397 > >> 1058 13.529 > >> 1059 13.549 > >> 1060 13.846 > >> 1061 14.032 > >> 1062 14.820 > >> 1063 13.962 > >> 1064 14.279 > >> 1065 14.151 > >> 1066 14.358 > >> 1067 14.131 > >> 1068 13.652 > >> 1069 13.941 > >> 1070 14.007 > >> 1071 14.403 > >> 1072 13.764 > >> 1073 13.982 > >> 1074 13.846 > >> 1075 13.830 > >> 1076 13.450 > >> 1077 13.632 > >> 1078 13.265 > >> 1079 13.331 > >> 1080 14.267 > >> 1081 13.644 > >> 1082 13.549 > >> 1083 13.557 > >> 1084 13.549 > >> 1085 14.725 > >> 1086 13.479 > >> 1087 12.848 > >> 1088 12.559 > >> 1089 12.926 > >> 1090 13.793 > >> 1091 14.387 > >> 1092 14.531 > >> 1093 14.114 > >> 1094 14.754 > >> 1095 14.688 > >> 1096 14.845 > >> 1097 14.729 > >> 1098 15.059 > >> 1099 15.059 > >> 1100 15.055 > >> 1101 16.057 > >> 1102 15.208 > >> 1103 15.492 > >> 1104 14.519 > >> 1105 14.741 > >> 1106 14.151 > >> 1107 15.005 > >> 1108 13.640 > >> 1109 13.652 > >> 1110 13.566 > >> 1111 13.978 > >> 1112 14.424 > >> 1113 14.180 > >> 1114 14.931 > >> 1115 14.601 > >> 1116 14.403 > >> 1117 14.391 > >> 1118 14.981 > >> 1119 15.125 > >> 1120 13.817 > >> 1121 12.897 > >> 1122 13.863 > >> 1123 14.271 > >> 1124 14.857 > >> 1125 14.882 > >> 1126 14.762 > >> 1127 14.548 > >> 1128 14.403 > >> 1129 14.667 > >> 1130 14.572 > >> 1131 14.057 > >> 1132 14.556 > >> 1133 15.018 > >> 1134 13.892 > >> 1135 13.995 > >> 1136 13.982 > >> 1137 14.853 > >> 1138 14.779 > >> 1139 15.129 > >> 1140 15.117 > >> 1141 14.849 > >> 1142 15.228 > >> 1143 15.216 > >> 1144 15.030 > >> 1145 14.428 > >> 1146 15.063 > >> 1147 15.216 > >> 1148 15.043 > >> 1149 15.034 > >> 1150 14.370 > >> 1151 15.096 > >> 1152 15.410 > >> 1153 15.719 > >> 1154 16.577 > >> 1155 15.769 > >> 1156 15.364 > >> 1157 15.855 > >> 1158 15.422 > >> 1159 14.515 > >> 1160 15.810 > >> 1161 15.628 > >> 1162 15.402 > >> 1163 15.092 > >> 1164 15.298 > >> 1165 14.865 > >> 1166 14.882 > >> 1167 15.274 > >> 1168 14.605 > >> 1169 14.746 > >> 1170 15.472 > >> 1171 15.509 > >> 1172 15.018 > >> 1173 15.369 > >> 1174 15.084 > >> 1175 15.855 > >> 1176 14.795 > >> 1177 15.571 > >> 1178 14.255 > >> 1179 14.510 > >> 1180 14.865 > >> 1181 14.036 > >> 1182 14.688 > >> 1183 14.713 > >> 1184 14.519 > >> 1185 14.255 > >> 1186 15.204 > >> 1187 14.461 > >> 1188 15.476 > >> 1189 14.882 > >> 1190 15.005 > >> 1191 14.453 > >> 1192 14.729 > >> 1193 15.265 > >> 1194 14.444 > >> 1195 14.696 > >> 1196 15.793 > >> 1197 14.581 > >> 1198 15.014 > >> 1199 14.539 > >> 1200 14.044 > >> 1201 14.733 > >> 1202 14.853 > >> 1203 15.298 > >> 1204 13.772 > >> 1205 13.991 > >> 1206 14.651 > >> 1207 14.836 > >> 1208 14.440 > >> 1209 15.162 > >> 1210 14.766 > >> 1211 15.010 > >> 1212 15.356 > >> 1213 14.787 > >> 1214 15.645 > >> 1215 15.435 > >> 1216 15.043 > >> 1217 15.063 > >> 1218 14.151 > >> 1219 15.397 > >> 1220 15.154 > >> 1221 15.892 > >> 1222 15.488 > >> 1223 15.938 > >> 1224 15.525 > >> 1225 15.591 > >> 1226 14.589 > >> 1227 15.496 > >> 1228 15.963 > >> 1229 14.502 > >> 1230 14.457 > >> 1231 15.468 > >> 1232 14.985 > >> 1233 15.282 > >> 1234 14.989 > >> 1235 15.237 > >> 1236 15.711 > >> 1237 15.888 > >> 1238 14.259 > >> 1239 14.560 > >> 1240 15.711 > >> 1241 15.195 > >> 1242 15.484 > >> 1243 15.166 > > > 1244 16.020 > >> 1245 16.454 > >> 1246 15.480 > >> 1247 15.492 > >> 1248 16.528 > >> 1249 15.150 > >> 1250 14.436 > >> 1251 14.878 > >> 1252 15.723 > >> 1253 15.043 > >> 1254 15.121 > >> 1255 14.845 > >> 1256 14.807 > >> 1257 14.482 > >> 1258 14.585 > >> 1259 15.307 > >> 1260 15.100 > >> 1261 14.354 > >> 1262 13.995 > >> 1263 14.106 > >> 1264 14.403 > >> 1265 14.754 > >> 1266 14.581 > >> 1267 14.799 > >> 1268 14.378 > >> 1269 14.671 > >> 1270 14.193 > >> 1271 14.387 > >> 1272 14.453 > > > 1273 14.510 > >> 1274 15.187 > >> 1275 15.393 > >> 1276 14.498 > >> 1277 14.560 > >> 1278 15.022 > >> 1279 14.498 > >> 1280 14.725 > >> 1281 13.549 > >> 1282 14.977 > >> 1283 14.065 > >> 1284 14.024 > >> 1285 13.603 > >> 1286 15.220 > >> 1287 15.080 > >> 1288 14.898 > >> 1289 14.774 > >> 1290 15.542 > >> 1291 15.212 > >> 1292 14.267 > >> 1293 14.692 > >> 1294 13.644 > >> 1295 14.222 > >> 1296 15.038 > >> 1297 14.721 > >> 1298 15.682 > >> 1299 13.896 > >> 1300 14.766 > >> 1301 14.836 > >> 1302 14.370 > >> 1303 14.812 > >> 1304 14.812 > >> 1305 13.673 > >> 1306 14.036 > >> 1307 13.929 > >> 1308 14.807 > >> 1309 14.114 > >> 1310 13.446 > >> 1311 13.368 > >> 1312 14.168 > >> 1313 14.989 > >> 1314 14.292 > >> 1315 14.985 > >> 1316 14.123 > >> 1317 14.321 > >> 1318 13.966 > >> 1319 14.325 > >> 1320 14.647 > >> 1321 14.622 > >> 1322 14.279 > >> 1323 14.510 > >> 1324 13.689 > >> 1325 13.450 > >> 1326 14.197 > >> 1327 13.867 > >> 1328 14.205 > >> 1329 14.779 > >> 1330 14.350 > >> 1331 14.729 > >> 1332 13.479 > >> 1333 13.974 > >> 1334 14.453 > >> 1335 14.535 > >> 1336 15.402 > >> 1337 14.424 > >> 1338 14.399 > >> 1339 14.906 > >> 1340 15.430 > >> 1341 14.531 > >> 1342 15.785 > >> 1343 15.513 > >> 1344 15.220 > >> 1345 15.352 > >> 1346 15.443 > >> 1347 15.410 > >> 1348 15.777 > >> 1349 14.902 > >> 1350 14.576 > >> 1351 14.605 > >> 1352 14.168 > >> 1353 14.601 > >> 1354 15.414 > >> 1355 14.300 > >> 1356 14.630 > >> 1357 15.170 > >> 1358 14.919 > >> 1359 14.688 > >> 1360 14.081 > >> 1361 14.799 > >> 1362 14.581 > >> 1363 15.133 > >> 1364 13.838 > >> 1365 14.708 > >> 1366 13.149 > >> 1367 13.281 > >> 1368 13.760 > >> 1369 14.123 > >> 1370 13.314 > >> 1371 14.523 > >> 1372 14.267 > >> 1373 14.226 > >> 1374 14.044 > >> 1375 14.271 > >> 1376 15.307 > >> 1377 14.684 > >> 1378 14.168 > >> 1379 14.473 > >> 1380 13.578 > >> 1381 13.586 > >> 1382 13.999 > >> 1383 13.991 > >> 1384 13.710 > >> 1385 14.411 > >> 1386 13.867 > >> 1387 14.255 > >> 1388 13.611 > >> 1389 13.974 > >> 1390 13.916 > >> 1391 13.615 > >> 1392 14.440 > >> 1393 14.787 > >> 1394 15.880 > >> 1395 16.297 > >> 1396 16.289 > >> 1397 15.170 > >> 1398 16.082 > >> 1399 15.463 > >> 1400 14.366 > >> 1401 14.758 > >> 1402 14.902 > >> 1403 14.568 > >> 1404 15.158 > >> 1405 15.579 > >> 1406 13.966 > >> 1407 13.970 > >> 1408 13.772 > >> 1409 14.523 > >> 1410 14.498 > >> 1411 14.791 > >> 1412 14.007 > >> 1413 15.818 > >> 1414 13.974 > >> 1415 13.776 > >> 1416 13.760 > >> 1417 14.407 > >> 1418 14.498 > >> 1419 14.515 > >> 1420 14.341 > >> 1421 14.374 > >> 1422 13.677 > >> 1423 14.354 > >> 1424 13.223 > >> 1425 13.801 > >> 1426 14.560 > >> 1427 14.374 > >> 1428 14.494 > >> 1429 15.051 > >> 1430 14.836 > >> 1431 13.999 > >> 1432 14.341 > >> 1433 14.865 > >> 1434 15.063 > >> 1435 15.311 > >> 1436 15.765 > >> 1437 15.789 > >> 1438 15.204 > >> 1439 15.298 > >> 1440 15.257 > >> 1441 15.443 > >> 1442 14.737 > >> 1443 15.385 > >> 1444 15.723 > >> 1445 14.717 > >> 1446 15.088 > >> 1447 15.253 > >> 1448 14.477 > >> 1449 16.004 > >> 1450 14.581 > >> 1451 14.449 > >> 1452 14.993 > >> 1453 14.151 > >> 1454 14.556 > >> 1455 14.366 > >> 1456 14.601 > >> 1457 13.813 > >> 1458 14.242 > >> 1459 15.047 > >> 1460 14.919 > >> 1461 14.300 > >> 1462 15.010 > >> 1463 14.139 > >> 1464 15.001 > >> 1465 14.873 > >> 1466 15.406 > >> 1467 14.399 > >> 1468 14.671 > >> 1469 15.092 > >> 1470 14.337 > >> 1471 14.948 > >> 1472 15.047 > >> 1473 14.523 > >> 1474 14.680 > >> 1475 14.395 > >> 1476 15.661 > >> 1477 15.158 > >> 1478 15.414 > >> 1479 15.641 > >> 1480 15.909 > >> 1481 15.748 > >> 1482 14.708 > >> 1483 14.981 > >> 1484 14.659 > >> 1485 15.113 > >> 1486 14.754 > >> 1487 15.740 > >> 1488 15.327 > >> 1489 15.125 > >> 1490 15.026 > >> 1491 15.567 > >> 1492 15.265 > >> 1493 15.996 > >> 1494 16.326 > >> 1495 14.915 > >> 1496 15.831 > >> 1497 14.845 > >> 1498 15.670 > >> 1499 16.156 > >> 1500 15.864 > > > 1501 15.831 > >> 1502 16.581 > >> 1503 15.212 > >> 1504 15.534 > >> 1505 15.270 > >> 1506 15.492 > >> 1507 15.633 > >> 1508 14.420 > >> 1509 15.723 > >> 1510 14.816 > >> 1511 15.282 > >> 1512 15.641 > >> 1513 14.655 > >> 1514 14.510 > >> 1515 13.508 > >> 1516 14.172 > >> 1517 14.251 > >> 1518 13.628 > >> 1519 13.698 > >> 1520 13.405 > >> 1521 13.920 > >> 1522 13.974 > >> 1523 13.978 > >> 1524 14.238 > >> 1525 14.003 > >> 1526 13.298 > >> 1527 13.694 > >> 1528 15.005 > >> 1529 14.218 > > > 1530 14.110 > >> 1531 14.593 > >> 1532 13.916 > >> 1533 14.510 > >> 1534 14.057 > >> 1535 14.048 > >> 1536 13.673 > >> 1537 14.477 > >> 1538 14.090 > >> 1539 14.300 > >> 1540 14.374 > >> 1541 14.387 > >> 1542 14.085 > >> 1543 14.184 > >> 1544 14.597 > >> 1545 14.783 > >> 1546 15.348 > >> 1547 15.859 > >> 1548 15.835 > >> 1549 14.729 > >> 1550 15.451 > >> 1551 15.204 > >> 1552 15.022 > >> 1553 15.352 > >> 1554 14.251 > >> 1555 14.135 > >> 1556 14.609 > >> 1557 14.572 > >> 1558 15.224 > >> 1559 14.688 > >> 1560 14.618 > >> 1561 15.179 > >> 1562 14.399 > >> 1563 14.873 > >> 1564 13.652 > >> 1565 13.958 > >> 1566 15.595 > >> 1567 14.898 > >> 1568 13.595 > >> 1569 14.019 > >> 1570 15.030 > >> 1571 15.228 > >> 1572 15.241 > >> 1573 16.355 > >> 1574 14.865 > >> 1575 14.923 > >> 1576 15.542 > >> 1577 15.162 > >> 1578 14.956 > >> 1579 15.657 > >> 1580 15.208 > >> 1581 15.208 > >> 1582 15.166 > >> 1583 14.473 > >> 1584 14.052 > >> 1585 14.213 > >> 1586 14.568 > >> 1587 14.762 > >> 1588 14.288 > >> 1589 14.069 > >> 1590 13.929 > >> 1591 13.479 > >> 1592 14.044 > >> 1593 14.267 > >> 1594 14.288 > >> 1595 14.609 > >> 1596 14.362 > >> 1597 13.846 > >> 1598 14.098 > >> 1599 14.147 > >> 1600 14.783 > >> 1601 13.995 > >> 1602 13.925 > >> 1603 13.999 > >> 1604 14.688 > >> 1605 13.892 > >> 1606 15.410 > >> 1607 14.325 > >> 1608 15.241 > >> 1609 15.104 > >> 1610 14.531 > >> 1611 15.958 > >> 1612 14.597 > >> 1613 14.337 > >> 1614 14.647 > >> 1615 13.318 > >> 1616 14.424 > >> 1617 13.768 > >> 1618 14.779 > >> 1619 14.886 > >> 1620 14.065 > >> 1621 14.085 > >> 1622 14.626 > >> 1623 13.912 > >> 1624 13.487 > >> 1625 14.292 > >> 1626 13.075 > >> 1627 13.871 > >> 1628 13.850 > >> 1629 13.755 > >> 1630 14.680 > >> 1631 14.048 > >> 1632 14.601 > >> 1633 15.752 > >> 1634 14.420 > >> 1635 14.085 > >> 1636 14.230 > >> 1637 15.426 > >> 1638 16.322 > >> 1639 14.762 > >> 1640 14.882 > >> 1641 14.985 > >> 1642 14.931 > >> 1643 15.484 > >> 1644 15.843 > >> 1645 14.861 > >> 1646 14.284 > >> 1647 14.494 > >> 1648 14.935 > >> 1649 13.966 > >> 1650 14.296 > >> 1651 13.768 > >> 1652 15.001 > >> 1653 14.944 > >> 1654 15.418 > >> 1655 15.146 > >> 1656 14.915 > >> 1657 14.803 > >> 1658 14.638 > >> 1659 14.630 > >> 1660 14.052 > >> 1661 13.702 > >> 1662 14.081 > >> 1663 14.312 > >> 1664 14.197 > >> 1665 13.780 > >> 1666 14.292 > >> 1667 14.634 > >> 1668 13.768 > >> 1669 14.671 > >> 1670 14.246 > >> 1671 14.812 > >> 1672 15.216 > >> 1673 15.810 > >> 1674 14.869 > >> 1675 16.148 > >> 1676 14.977 > >> 1677 14.923 > >> 1678 15.488 > >> 1679 14.956 > >> 1680 14.098 > >> 1681 14.523 > >> 1682 15.327 > >> 1683 15.666 > >> 1684 15.554 > >> 1685 15.270 > >> 1686 15.492 > >> 1687 15.459 > >> 1688 14.754 > >> 1689 14.741 > >> 1690 14.700 > >> 1691 14.906 > >> 1692 13.904 > >> 1693 14.527 > >> 1694 15.063 > >> 1695 14.399 > >> 1696 15.096 > >> 1697 15.360 > >> 1698 15.694 > >> 1699 15.249 > >> 1700 14.779 > >> 1701 14.609 > >> 1702 15.336 > >> 1703 15.121 > >> 1704 15.154 > >> 1705 15.212 > >> 1706 14.750 > >> 1707 15.472 > >> 1708 14.164 > >> 1709 13.665 > >> 1710 14.213 > >> 1711 14.741 > >> 1712 15.521 > >> 1713 15.410 > >> 1714 14.519 > >> 1715 15.154 > >> 1716 14.597 > >> 1717 15.212 > >> 1718 14.688 > >> 1719 13.962 > >> 1720 15.109 > >> 1721 15.839 > >> 1722 15.765 > >> 1723 15.001 > >> 1724 15.389 > >> 1725 15.088 > >> 1726 14.655 > >> 1727 14.312 > >> 1728 14.824 > >> 1729 14.981 > >> 1730 13.640 > >> 1731 15.043 > >> 1732 13.953 > >> 1733 13.681 > >> 1734 14.036 > >> 1735 13.937 > >> 1736 14.832 > >> 1737 14.807 > >> 1738 14.325 > >> 1739 14.337 > >> 1740 14.680 > >> 1741 14.779 > >> 1742 14.255 > >> 1743 14.205 > >> 1744 14.024 > >> 1745 14.069 > >> 1746 15.216 > >> 1747 15.455 > >> 1748 15.447 > >> 1749 15.851 > >> 1750 15.253 > >> 1751 14.626 > >> 1752 15.294 > >> 1753 15.744 > >> 1754 15.158 > >> 1755 14.750 > >> 1756 15.319 > >> 1757 15.059 > > > 1758 15.195 > >> 1759 14.725 > >> 1760 14.609 > >> 1761 14.869 > >> 1762 15.212 > >> 1763 15.505 > >> 1764 14.634 > >> 1765 15.175 > >> 1766 14.552 > >> 1767 15.109 > >> 1768 14.312 > >> 1769 14.090 > >> 1770 14.246 > >> 1771 14.127 > >> 1772 14.667 > >> 1773 14.312 > >> 1774 14.659 > >> 1775 14.296 > >> 1776 14.527 > >> 1777 14.069 > >> 1778 15.005 > >> 1779 14.832 > >> 1780 15.146 > >> 1781 14.865 > >> 1782 14.102 > >> 1783 13.735 > >> 1784 14.510 > >> 1785 14.052 > >> 1786 14.795 > > > 1787 15.455 > >> 1788 15.298 > >> 1789 14.325 > >> 1790 14.927 > >> 1791 14.230 > >> 1792 14.230 > >> 1793 14.836 > >> 1794 15.637 > >> 1795 15.022 > >> 1796 14.473 > >> 1797 14.968 > >> 1798 14.028 > >> 1799 13.463 > >> 1800 14.151 > >> 1801 15.187 > >> 1802 15.290 > >> 1803 15.732 > >> 1804 14.985 > >> 1805 15.224 > >> 1806 16.251 > >> 1807 13.289 > >> 1808 14.420 > >> 1809 14.696 > >> 1810 14.568 > >> 1811 15.802 > >> 1812 16.082 > >> 1813 16.416 > >> 1814 16.082 > >> 1815 16.309 > >> 1816 15.967 > >> 1817 16.247 > >> 1818 15.208 > >> 1819 15.587 > >> 1820 15.323 > >> 1821 15.505 > >> 1822 14.812 > >> 1823 15.298 > >> 1824 15.022 > >> 1825 15.179 > >> 1826 15.967 > >> 1827 14.040 > >> 1828 14.449 > >> 1829 14.242 > >> 1830 14.548 > >> 1831 14.378 > >> 1832 15.137 > >> 1833 13.496 > >> 1834 14.081 > >> 1835 15.228 > >> 1836 14.700 > >> 1837 14.432 > >> 1838 14.927 > >> 1839 14.482 > >> 1840 15.175 > >> 1841 14.296 > >> 1842 14.762 > >> 1843 14.350 > >> 1844 14.770 > >> 1845 15.026 > >> 1846 14.688 > >> 1847 14.944 > >> 1848 15.088 > >> 1849 14.774 > >> 1850 14.865 > >> 1851 14.787 > >> 1852 14.527 > >> 1853 14.502 > >> 1854 15.183 > >> 1855 14.828 > >> 1856 15.270 > >> 1857 14.436 > >> 1858 14.721 > >> 1859 14.539 > >> 1860 14.407 > >> 1861 14.832 > >> 1862 14.271 > >> 1863 14.490 > >> 1864 13.953 > >> 1865 15.290 > >> 1866 14.473 > >> 1867 15.414 > >> 1868 14.440 > >> 1869 15.129 > >> 1870 15.022 > >> 1871 15.468 > >> 1872 14.993 > >> 1873 14.890 > >> 1874 14.638 > >> 1875 14.898 > >> 1876 14.993 > >> 1877 14.366 > >> 1878 14.333 > >> 1879 13.454 > >> 1880 15.369 > >> 1881 15.109 > >> 1882 15.187 > >> 1883 15.278 > >> 1884 14.308 > >> 1885 15.026 > >> 1886 15.385 > >> 1887 15.183 > >> 1888 14.127 > >> 1889 14.985 > >> 1890 15.480 > >> 1891 14.717 > >> 1892 15.773 > >> 1893 14.807 > >> 1894 15.451 > >> 1895 15.179 > >> 1896 13.780 > >> 1897 14.531 > >> 1898 13.912 > >> 1899 14.354 > >> 1900 15.290 > >> 1901 15.752 > >> 1902 14.886 > >> 1903 15.216 > >> 1904 15.938 > >> 1905 15.208 > >> 1906 14.279 > >> 1907 14.923 > >> 1908 15.022 > >> 1909 15.501 > >> 1910 15.633 > >> 1911 15.212 > >> 1912 13.648 > >> 1913 14.329 > >> 1914 15.389 > >> 1915 14.704 > >> 1916 15.983 > >> 1917 14.779 > >> 1918 14.432 > >> 1919 14.024 > >> 1920 14.040 > >> 1921 14.622 > >> 1922 15.315 > >> 1923 14.560 > >> 1924 15.835 > >> 1925 14.927 > >> 1926 14.812 > >> 1927 15.220 > >> 1928 16.433 > >> 1929 14.506 > >> 1930 14.535 > >> 1931 14.073 > >> 1932 14.440 > >> 1933 15.406 > >> 1934 14.708 > >> 1935 15.026 > >> 1936 14.106 > >> 1937 13.372 > >> 1938 14.663 > >> 1939 13.842 > >> 1940 13.879 > >> 1941 14.725 > >> 1942 14.510 > >> 1943 14.337 > >> 1944 15.133 > >> 1945 14.189 > >> 1946 14.048 > >> 1947 14.098 > >> 1948 14.923 > >> 1949 14.733 > >> 1950 14.581 > >> 1951 15.121 > >> 1952 14.073 > >> 1953 14.572 > >> 1954 14.106 > >> 1955 14.457 > >> 1956 14.849 > >> 1957 14.626 > >> 1958 15.374 > >> 1959 15.183 > >> 1960 14.970 > >> 1961 15.140 > >> 1962 15.289 > >> 1963 14.991 > >> 1964 14.395 > >> 1965 14.991 > >> 1966 15.587 > >> 1967 14.948 > >> 1968 14.948 > >> 1969 14.629 > >> 1970 15.779 > >> 1971 16.354 > >> 1972 15.247 > >> 1973 14.671 > >> 1974 15.353 > >> 1975 16.141 > >> 1976 14.586 > >> 1977 14.863 > >> 1978 15.332 > >> 1979 14.948 > >> 1980 14.906 > >> 1981 15.481 > >> 1982 14.991 > >> 1983 14.117 > >> 1984 15.353 > >> 1985 15.225 > >> 1986 15.587 > >> 1987 15.140 > >> 1988 14.863 > >> 1989 16.098 > >> 1990 15.417 > >> 1991 14.991 > >> 1992 14.096 > >> 1993 14.160 > >> 1994 15.183 > >> 1995 15.119 > >> 1996 15.630 > >> 1997 14.927 > >> 1998 15.417 > >> 1999 16.354 > >> > >>On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: > >> > >>>Thanks Ricardo and Ed! I personally am not a > >>>big fan of the Jones and Mann SH recon. It is > >>>based on so little. On the other hand, it is in > >>>the literature. So, I leave it up to you and > > >>Keith to decide - perhaps Eystein can weigh in > >>>too. > >>> > >>>I do, however, think it would be really helpful > >>>to included the borehole data (see prev. > >>>emails) - either as a single SH curve, or > >>>(probably better) two regional curves > >>>(Australia and S. Africa). Is there a reason > >>>this is not a good idea? Can't complain about > >>>snow bias down there... > >>> > >>>Thanks again - I look forward to seeing the > >>>next draft and figure - complete w/ borehole I > > >>hope. > >>> > >>>thx, Peck > >>> > >>>>Hi Keith, > >>>> > >>>>Please, find attached my last version of the SH temp. As you know, Ed > >Cook > >>>>returned my original version of the SH with minor comments. Overall, he > >>>>agreed with the text. Still I am waiting from him the Oroco Swamp data >to > >>>>include in the Figure, which first draft I sent you more than a month > >ago. > >>>> > >>>>In the last version I have included a first paragraph referring to the > >Jones > >>>>and Mann (2003) temperature reconstruction for the SH. At that time we > >have > >>>>to decide if we want to have the hemispheric (Jones and Mann) and the > >>>>regional views (Tasmania, New Zealand, Patagonia, maybe include > >Antarctica > >>>>(Ommem et al. 2005)), or just one of them. If we decide to stay with the > >>>>hemispheric view, we should include Jones and Mann reconstruction at the > >>>>bottom of one of your figures. In cases that we decide to maintain both > >>>>hemispheric and regional views, we should include Jones and Mann at the > >>>>bottom of my figure. Please, could you check with Peck and Eystein to > >see > >>>>the best way to proceed? Thanks, > >>>> > >>>>Ricardo > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Keith Briffa" > >>>>To: ; "Eystein Jansen" > >>>>Cc: ; "Ed Cook" > >>>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:01 AM > >>>>Subject: the regional section and MWP Figure > >>>> > >>>>> Guys > >>>>> still need the SH temp bit from Ricardo/ED to edit and am exploring > >the > >>>>MWP > >>>>> Figure - but the concept still is unclear to me - but we agreed to >do > >a > >>>>> plot like Tom's . The regional section is still a worry - I am >happy > >to > >>>>> very briefly edit the section on NAO (possibly incorporate the ENSO > >>>>stuff ) > >>>>> but my understanding is that this section is best done (to >incorporate > >>>>also > >>>>> the regional moisture work of Ed ) by Ricardo /Ed with input my >Peck. > >This > >>>>> is still my opinion. I also would appreciate feedback re the >regional > >>>>> forcing section that I think we may have to drop - but perhaps not. > >>>>> Therefore I ask that when i get the SH temp stuff I will incorporate > >it > >>>>but > >>>>> that you guys (Peck, Ricardo, Ed and Eystein interacting over the > >North > >>>>> Atlantic bit) first review and redo the regional section . > >>>>> It is important to get feedback from Henry re the borehole stuff and > >>>>> involve Tom in the debate with all of us , of the value of the >Figure > >. In > >>>>> meantime , will experiment with the Figure and review existing text > >and > >>>>bullets > >>>>> Keith > >>>>> > >>>>> Keith > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Professor Keith Briffa, > >>>>> Climatic Research Unit > >>>>> University of East Anglia > >>>>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. > >>>>> > >>>>> Phone: +44-1603-593909 > >>>>> Fax: +44-1603-507784 > >>>>> > >>>>> [1]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Southern > >>>>hemisphere2.doc (WDBN/«IC») (0008A6E0) > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Jonathan T. Overpeck > >>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > >>>Professor, Department of Geosciences > >>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > >>> > >>>Mail and Fedex Address: > >>> > >>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > >>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor > >>>University of Arizona > >>>Tucson, AZ 85721 > >>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 > >>>fax: +1 520 792-8795 > >>>[2]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ > >>>[3]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > >>> > >>================================== > >>Dr. Edward R. Cook > >>Doherty Senior Scholar and > >>Director, Tree-Ring Laboratory > >>Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory > >>Palisades, New York 10964 USA > >>Email: drdendro@ldeo.columbia.edu > >>Phone: 845-365-8618 > >>Fax: 845-365-8152 > >>================================== > > > > > >-- > >Jonathan T. Overpeck > >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > >Professor, Department of Geosciences > >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > > > >Mail and Fedex Address: > > > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor > >University of Arizona > >Tucson, AZ 85721 > >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 > >fax: +1 520 792-8795 > >[4]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ > >[5]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > > > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:SHregteml 1.JPG (JPEG/«IC») (0008ADC3) > > >-- >Jonathan T. Overpeck >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >Professor, Department of Geosciences >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > >Mail and Fedex Address: > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >University of Arizona >Tucson, AZ 85721 >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >fax: +1 520 792-8795 >[6]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >[7]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [8]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [9]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ References 1. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ 2. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ 3. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ 4. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ 5. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ 6. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ 7. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ 8. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ 9. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/