date: Fri Jan 14 16:53:45 2000 from: Mike Hulme subject: Re: Meeting on Monday to: John Shepherd John, I had just sent out the note to Hadley before yours came. Never mind. No harm done. See you Monday. Mike At 16:02 14/01/00 -0500, you wrote: >Mike > Here are a few comments (see annotations in CAPS below) : sorry it's so >late (it's turned into one of those days...). Apart from these fairly minor >quibbles I think this is a good basis for discussion. > > John > >At 12:04 14/01/00 +0000, Mike Hulme wrote: >>Tom and John, >> >>Here is a 1-pager as a discussion starter for the Monday meeting (1100 at >>Hadley). Let me have any comments on this ASAP and I will then send off a >>version to Alan Thorpe. Clearly we can say more verbally, but I thought it >>helpful to set the ball rolling in this way. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Mike >> >>____________________________________________ >> >>Some Notes on the Relationship between >>the Proposed Tyndall Climate Centre Research Centre and the Hadley Centre >> >>We have proposed three key roles for the Tyndall Centre: >>· Interdisciplinary research: the deployment of experienced, >>inter-disciplinary research teams, to investigate novel approaches, >>thinking laterally across natural, social and engineering sciences. >>· Engagement with stakeholders: the execution of research in which we >>evaluate - with their developers - ways of mobilising new technologies, >>lifestyles, and regulatory mechanisms to allow us to manage climate change >>in the twenty-first century. >>· Constructive, opinion-forming debate: the establishment of a focal point >>in the UK, through which we encourage open and constructive debate about >>climate change solutions across major cultural and organisational divides - >>public-private, households-corporations, North-South. >> >>Some Areas of Interaction with the Hadley Centre: >>· The HC is a world-class climate modelling centre and the Tyndall Centre >>(TC) will draw upon results from this modelling effort in designing UK and >>worldwide climate scenarios for use in its activities. In fact, we >>envisage that the Tyndall Centre can easily build on the existing >>collaborationS between HC, UKCIP, and SOUTHAMPTON (SOC) AND UEA (CRU) in >this area (e.g. the LINK >>facility). We would like to work with the HC in the design of their (e.g. >>RCM) model experiments that would most benefit the TC. >>· At global and regional scales we would like to work with the Hadley >>Centre in improving the interpretation of future scenarios of climate >>change for an array of human-related impacts. While some work has been >>done in this area with DETR support, we believe that the expertise of the >>Tyndall Centre can be engaged to refine the impact models and assessments >>that are made. This may offer the prospect for assimilating certain >>additional model components into future generations of the Hadley Centre >>model. >>· The Tyndall Centre would like to work with the HC in the design and >>calibration of reduced-COMPLEXITY(?) models which are likely to play a >part in a >>number of TC research activities. Existing collaboration between HC and >>CRU is an example of such activity, but we would see this extending into >>more comprehensive reduced-COMPLEXITY(?) models that can replicate HC >results in >>more dimensions (NOT CLEAR : RE-PHRASE: EG "FOR USE IN A MORE COMPLEX >SOCIO-ECONOMIC CONTEXT"). In particular, we would ALSO like to explore the >capacity for >>reduced-form models to emulate the behaviour of the Hadley Centre model in >>relation to rapid, non-linear changes. We see such low probability, >>high-risk futures as having an important bearing on decision-making in some >>areas of climate policy. There is scope here also for stochastic and >>expert-judgement approaches. >>· The Tyndall Centre will embark on an effort to design a second-generation >>INTEGRATED ASSESSMENT tool to be incorporated within a Decision Support >System for use by >>public and private policy-makers. This will include the adaptive >>co-evolution of human actors alongside biogeochemical systems and will >>likely initially be designed for a UK region. Such a tool will draw upon >>insights gained in the previous three areas of TC-HC interaction. >>· There may be selective areas where the expertise of the TC could be >>engaged by the HC to further develop aspects of the Hadley model. One >>example may be in the area of atmospheric chemistry with >>UEA/UMIST/Cambridge contributing a particularly significant expertise. >> >>Some Operational Issues >>· We would like to consider the possible involvement of the Hadley Centre >>in the Advisory Board of the Tyndall Centre. >>· We would like to consider the possibility of extended (e.g. 3-month) >>exchanges between HC/TC scientists funded by the Tyndall Centre, to allow >>for exchanges between more physically-oriented HC scientists and more >>impact/socially-oriented TC scientists. >>· We would like to consider options for joint TC/HC proposals (plus other >>[European] partners) to the EU AND ELSEWHERE, for work on certain integrated >>dimensions of climate change science. >>· There are a number of bi-lateral co-operative activities between HC and >>TC members. We should discuss the implications for these of winning the >>Centre (and also of losing it!). >> >>Mike Hulme, 14th January 2000 >> >> >>At 11:24 14/01/00 -0000, you wrote: >>>Mike, >>> >>>Do we have an agenda for the Hadley Centre meeting ? >>> >>>Tom >>> >>> >> >_______________________________________________ > >Please note that Southampton has a new telephone area code (see below) > >John Shepherd >Earth System Modelling Initiative >School of Ocean & Earth Science >Southampton Oceanography Centre >University of Southampton >Waterfront Campus >Southampton SO14 3ZH >UK > >Phone +44-(0)2380-596256 >Fax +44-(0)2380-596258 > >