date: Tue Oct 7 11:05:35 2008 from: Phil Jones subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS to: "Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA)" Jo, OK, should have some idea by the end of Wednesday. I'm off again on Oct 20 for 6 days, so would need to complete the work by Oct 20. Cheers Phil At 10:57 07/10/2008, you wrote: Hi Phil, A final e-mail before you leave. When youve had a chance to look at whats required to finalise the report in more detail, could you send me a revised estimate of how many days effort you think it will take you to finish it, along with confirmation of your daily rate, so that we can draw up an agreement for payment? I also wanted to let you know that the UNFCCC have confirmed that theyre able to wait until the 24^th of October for the report to be submitted, so wed need to get something submitted by then (ideally having sent it to Paul Mason and possibly other members of the GECC obs subgroup to look over before then, though I appreciate that we may be pushed for time on this). Hope this is okay. Thanks, Jo From: Phil Jones [[1]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 07 October 2008 09:39 To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA) Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS Jo, The only person I knew at the Windermere centre - of the Freshwater Biological Association is Glen George. His email is [2]glen@abercuch.wanadoo.co.uk I found this from a web search. [3]http://www.ies.aber.ac.uk/staff/academic/glen-george This is clearly the right person, but he seems to be retired now. [4]http://www.fba.org.uk/index/about.html - this link is the place Paul is talking about. Glen used to work for CEH based at the FBA (or next to it). This page says Michael Dobson is the current director. The CEH (Windermere) web site is undergoing restoration. I think this maybe because CEH has closed this centre. Not got us much further forward. Cheers Phil At 09:13 07/10/2008, you wrote: Dear Phil, That sounds fine to me. Ill send the report to Jon Turton and any contact that Guy Winter can give me in SEPA, asking them to fill in any gaps and return the new versions of the reports to us both with track changes on ideally before the end of the week so theyre there when you get back. Late yesterday, Paul Mason pointed out one other site well need information on, which is Lake Windermere for the lake network. Doug Wilson of the environment agency didnt provide any information about this, but I can try contacting him again to double-check. Do you know of anyone who might have this information? Enjoy the meeting I hope the key-note goes well (and that they werent expecting it to be in Spanish!) Jo From: Phil Jones [ [5]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 07 October 2008 09:03 To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA) Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS Jo, Apologies for not getting back yesterday afternoon. Yes it would be useful sending to Jon Turton to ask if he can fill in any missing info. As for SEPA, I did some work for them about 5 years ago, but the person I dealt with has moved on. I'm involved with the UKCIP08 work (Kathryn Humphrey leads on this at DEFRA). On the steering committee of this is Guy Winter - who may know who you could contact. "Winter, Guy (SEERAD)" . SEERAD is the Scottish Executive Environment, Rural Affairs Dept, I think. Not sure how this links to SEPA. Devolution has led to having to know more contacts - I presume Wales and NI are OK. The same steering committee has these two contacts "Barry McAuley" "Britton, Nicola (WAG-EPC)" but for the moment lets's assume that with Jon and any contact Guy can help you with at SEPA will be enough. I'd just email Guy and ask for a name, after a little background. So this should be enough for the moment. On emailing, I think I meant contacting you to ask any specific questions and to let you know how I'm getting on. Hope you get to find out soon where you'll be moving to! I'll be leaving about 2pm today. Cheers Phil At 12:14 06/10/2008, you wrote: Hi Phil, That sounds fine to me though from my own experience trying to chase people for inputs to the report, Im afraid it might take them some time to get back to you. With this in mind, would it help if I sent the report to people and asked for their inputs while you are away (just to keep things moving)? Jon Turton at the Met Office provided previous inputs, so I could ask him to fill in the gaps marked with **?** in the table entries that the Met Office is responsible for if that would help (though he may not have done this before because he didnt know). Similarly, I could ask SEPA for information on the terrestrial networks, though Im not sure who the contact would be do you have any ideas? Im around all week, so feel free to e-mail/call me did you mean for suggestions of who you should contact, or who we should contact? If its the former, Im afraid I may not have the expertise to be much help, but I will certainly do my best. Let me know if you think this will be a problem. And yes, most of us working on climate change in Defra will be part of DECC (Dept for Energy and Climate Change I think) from sometime soon. Weve been told very little about it so far, but I think well be moving buildings sometime in the future, and well obviously have a new boss! Look forward to hearing from you about how we should proceed. Best wishes, Jo From: Phil Jones [ [6]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 06 October 2008 11:26 To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA) Subject: RE: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS Jo, Have the latest draft. From your email it looks as though I will have to make a few contacts when I get back. This will be fine, though I hope they will respond quickly when I can email. I'll read the German and Swedish reports on the plane tomorrow, and make a start on Wednesday. It looks like it will take longer than I first anticipated, but hopefully not that much longer. Will you be in later in the week? I might email with suggestions for who else to contact. Are you still in DEFRA by the way? I was just wondering what of DEFRA will be in the new Climate Change and Energy Dept? Cheers Phil At 10:09 06/10/2008, you wrote: Hi Phil, Many thanks for offering to do this both the timescale and cost would work very well for us, so it would be great if you were able to do it. In terms of the work involved, however, I should let you know that I ran the draft by Paul Mason over the weekend and he thinks it still requires some input from the Met Office (for the gaps in the atmospheric tables) and SEPA (for the terrestrial tables), so you might need to contact them for some information. I also thought that some other organisations might need to be contacted in order to answer some of the queries I flagged up in yellow and to produce the narrative sections and consolidate the table entries into single numbers with no text (as the other countries have done). Does this fit with what you had in mind? If you need a few extra days to do this, wed be happy to pay for those I just wanted to make sure you were aware of what was involved before taking it on! I look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes, Jo P.S. Paul Mason made some small changes to the draft I sent you last week using track changes. I have attached his edited version to this e-mail so that you have the most up to date version of the report. From: Phil Jones [ [7]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 06 October 2008 09:32 To: Thorpe, Jo (CEOSA) Subject: Re: Report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to GCOS Jo, I've printed off the documents and should be able to do this. I am away in Spain at a meeting from tomorrow afternoon until next Monday. I should be able to do it then. I have learnt that several sessions at this meeting will be in Spanish. I'm giving the first keynote talk in English! As for the time this will take, I need to read some of it to decide. My guess from a quick screen scan is that it is something in the range of 1-2 days. I'd charge £500 per day for this. Let me know if this is OK? I leave for Spain about noon tomorrow. I should be able to get something back to you next week - hopefully the first part as I have teaching on Tues/Weds am. Are you happy with a tracked changed version of your document? The original Tables could be left in as Appendices. I'm on the GCOS Atmospheric Observation Panel and we've looked at these national submissions in earlier rounds. Cheers Phil At 12:01 03/10/2008, you wrote: Hi Phil, Sorry to bother you with this, but I was hoping that you might be able to help us with a small piece of work that we need completing over the next 2-3 weeks, or that you might know someone who would (for a fee, of course). The background to the request is that the UK needs to submit a report to the UNFCCC on UK contributions to the Global Climate Observing System (GCOS) as soon as possible (the deadline for submission has already passed, but we are seeking an extension). We had originally hoped that we would be able to compile the report ourselves, as a consultancy firm working for us agreed to help draft the report and circulate it to interested parties for contributions. They have now done this, but the draft they produced still needs some work. We therefore need someone with knowledge of the climate observations made in the UK to produce a final version of the report from the draft that we already have. I have attached our latest draft of the report, along with the UNFCCC guidelines for compiling the report and two examples of reports produced by other countries (Germany and Sweden) so you can see roughly what the final version should look like. You will notice that the main issue with our report is that the UNFCCC need narrative information on the UK contribution to GCOS (as mentioned in paras 12, 13/15, 16-18, 20-23/25 of the guidelines) and very brief summary tables, whereas our report has almost all the information in tables. So the main job would be to transfer the extra information in the tables into narrative form, as set out in the guidelines, as well as filling in any gaps and answering the questions flagged up in yellow in the report. Would you be willing to take this project on? If so, could you provide us with an estimate of the cost of the work and when you would be able to complete it by? If not, it would be a great help if you could suggest anyone with the appropriate expertise who might be able to do so. Please feel free to give me a ring if you need any more details (0207 238 3384). 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