date: Thu Jan 3 10:15:12 2008
from: Phil Jones
subject: Re: French stuff (+ 3 PDFs)
to: Edouard BARD
Hi Edouard,
I saw some of these on the Real Climate web site. I also saw that Climate Audit
also picked it up. They agreed with Pierrehumbert, but seemed to want to turn
it into a pantomime (particularly English thing) and also a French Farce.
Anyway it seems as though someone tracked down where Courtillot had
got his data from. It did come from here, but it was on the NGDC site and it
was only for the land N of 20N and just for April to September. So it wasn't
what they said. Climate Audit tried to make something of this, but why not just take it
from
the CRU web site - like you did!
Anyway I hope it doesn't run any more as well! Happy New Year.
Cheers
Phil
PS Over Christmas I got these two emails from EPSL about 2 papers
I reviewed and rejected. I'll forward just for you. I'm reviewer # 1, but there
is an interesting note linking the editor to Courtillot.
At 18:15 02/01/2008, you wrote:
Bonsoir Phil,
The media cover has been incredible, among others:
[1]http://www.20minutes.fr/article/202189/Sciences-Les-sceptiques-francais-du-climat-acc
uses-de-tricherie.php
[2]http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3244,36-991405@51-853716,0.html
[3]http://www.liberation.fr/transversales/futur/298894.FR.php
There is also a long article in the third prominent French newspaper (Le Figaro, see
attached PDF).
Note that all these articles only describe the controversy from the "outside", i.e.
without having me as a direct participant. Indeed, I don't want to be responsibe for
unproven accusations of wrong doing. I also declined all sollicitations by medias
(notably TV and radios).
Hoping that this story will not lead to further problems, I wish you the best for this
New Year 2008.
Cheers, Edouard
>Edouard,
All the best for Christmas and the New Year!
I don't regularly look at the Real Climate, but have done today.
Ray Pierrehumbert has produced a great summary of the Courtillot
et al. papers in EPSL (and your response). I had no idea the editor
could remove a note added in proof, nor that he knew Courtillot et al
either. It becomes a little clearer now, why I was getting emails from
the editor. At least we all now know where the global T record came
from.
I had an email from a Swiss journalist a week ago. I will forward
him the link. He wanted to refer to the article, but said it was awful
and he should refer to this one attached by Lockwood and Frohlich.
Mike Lockwood has two more in submission to the same journal,
expanding on the ideas in this paper.
Cheers
Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
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Edouard BARD
Professeur au Collège de France
Chaire de l'évolution du climat et de l'océan
Directeur adjoint du CEREGE, UMR-6635
Le Trocadéro, Europole de l'Arbois BP80
13545 Aix-en-Provence cdx 4
Tel 04 42 50 74 18, 04 42 50 74 20 (secr.)
Fax 04 42 50 74 21, email bard@cerege.fr
[4]http://www.college-de-france.fr/default/EN/all/evo_cli/
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Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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