cc: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no,k.briffa@uea.ac.uk date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:45:51 +0000 from: Rick Battarbee subject: Re: timing of proposals to: Keith Alverson Hi Keith, Yes it is - we now have a leaked version of the text for the palaeoclimate project in the EU 3rd call. The meeting on Thursday will include those in the EU community who want to include a longer time-scale in the proposal, so if one objective were to mesh the EU and NSF programmes, this plus the nature of the ESH priorities would be very relevant to the debate on how to design "HOLCLIM". Eystein is putting the agenda together, but I'm sure he would be very happy for you to outline the PAGES - NSF dimension. See you next week Rick At 16:30 08/01/04 +0100, you wrote: >Rick, > > Is the proposal deadline for some kind of Holclim-PAGES proposal we have > been discussing in October? Our US funding manager, Dave Verardo, has had > some contacts with EC folks (including Dr. Anver Ghazi, Head of the > Global Change Unit at the European Commission) and tells me (see > below) that there is an EU proposal deadline is about the same as the US > Earth System History deadline that PAGES renewal proposal will be > submitted for. Thus it may be worth linking up the proposals in some way, > for example selling the PAGES NSF proposal in the EU Holclim proposal as > a source of substantial matching funding which can serve to increase the > value of the EU funding, and of course vice versa in the PAGES proposal I > will submit to Dave. Just trying to think strategically a bit. If it > seems interesting to you, we can perhaps discuss this at our meeting on > the 15th. > >Keith > >> >>By the way, the EC has now included paleoclimate research in their Work >>Programme for the 3rd call on Global Change and Ecosystems. The US and the >>EC have been talking about this at least since the spring. The idea has been >>bubbling up in Europe and now they have included it for certain. The new >>timing for ESH in Oct of each year and coincides perfectly with the EC >>timeline with both countries making decisions at about the same time in the >>early spring. This was not for certain at the AGU meeting (when I spoke to >>the PAGES Ex Com) but apparently it is now. This is a good thing for >>paleoclimate science research and will help ease co-funding decissions and >>coordination, I hope. >> >>Dave >> >>David J. Verardo Director, Paleoclimate Program >>Division of Atmospheric Sciences (Room 775) >>National Science Foundation >>4201 Wilson Blvd. >>Arlington, VA 22203 >>phone: 703-292-8527 >>fax: 703-292-9023 >>email: dverardo@nsf.gov >>http://www.nsf.gov > >-- >Keith Alverson >Executive Director, IGBP-PAGES, www.pages-igbp.org >President, IAMAS International Commission on Climate, www.iamas.org >Editor, EOS Transactions of the American Geophysical Union, >http://www.agu.org/pubs/eos.html > >PAGES International Project Office >Sulgeneckstrasse 38 >3007, Bern, Switzerland >Tel: +41 31 312 3133 >Fax: +41 31 312 3168 >Mobile: +41 079 705 6536 Professor R.W. Battarbee Environmental Change Research Centre University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP, UK. Tel. +44 (0)20 7679 7582, Fax +44 (0)20 7679 7565 http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/