date: Tue Jul 12 16:39:46 2005 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: New drafts] to: Kevin Trenberth Kevin, Done this. I'll work on this version some more tomorrow. I'll resend it tomorrow late, so you can pick up after the golf. Here's some thoughts on the captions for the maps. I think we need this sort of detail to keep skeptics happy. I need to read Jay's email carefully to check I've missed nothing. Off home now to see a roofer - we have a small leak ! Tell me if a revised set of figures are on the ftp site, for my tomorrow.. Didn't get to send any more pdf reminders - will do tomorrow. Cheers Phil At 15:54 12/07/2005, you wrote: Rats David sent me some separate corrections: I thought you had them: this one needs to be updated with initials Chagnon, F.J.F. and R. L. Bras, 2005: Kevin -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: New drafts Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:43:51 +0100 From: Parker, David (Met Office) [1] To: Kevin Trenberth [2] References: [3]<42CF0169.4010203@ucar.edu> [4]<1121094349.5955.35.camel@eld448.desktop.frd.metoffice.com> [5]<42D2CF60.7030604@ucar.edu> Kevin Thanks. I noticed that the first author is "Chagnon" not "Changnon" and amended your entry in the references. The two Changnons cited in the references are correct...its odd that all these are in the surface moisture field! I presume that only you can amend the file on your directory so I am attaching a copy with my edits. David On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 20:58, Kevin Trenberth wrote: > David > That paper probably ought to be included: I added the following to > 3.3.2.4 under urban areas: > > > > Nor is it confined to urban areas. Other changes in land use can also > affect precipitation, and a notable example is in the Amazon arising > from deforestation, where Chagnon and Bras (2005) find large changes > in local rainfall, with increases in deforested areas, associated with > local atmospheric circulations that are changed by gradients of > vegetation. Changes are also found in seasonality. > > Kevin > > > Parker, David (Met Office) wrote: > > Kevin > > > > Thanks for this useful material. I managed to read the file of diagrams > > on the 2nd attempt. > > > > > > Fig 3.2.1: We cannot add the shaded band because we haven't done optimum > > averaging on land-only. This is because we haven't yet developed the > > requisite covariance matrices yet. It is more complex to do this for > > land-only than for the ocean or for the entire globe, partly because we > > are dealing with a discontinuous domain. I'm sure it will be done in due > > course, but we're not there yet. > > > > Fig 3.6.1. I prefer the alternative as the NAO is covered by Fig 3.6.5. > > > > Fig 3.6.7. The low pass filter can't have come from Fig 3.6.1 where no > > low-pass filter is evident. > > > > Fig 3.7.2 caption "...rate in each of the monsoon regions..." > > > > Amazonia: I saw the attached paper in GRL this morning. > > > > Regards > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 23:42, Kevin Trenberth wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Phil and I have been working diligently on getting the basic chapter together. I think we have made a lot of progress. However, we urgently await the revised figures from David Easterling, and supposedly these are coming very soon, so you may want to hold off on this for a couple of days, and wait for a new version. The new aspect is that the figure file is now coordinated fully with the t ext. Figures have been reassembled and renumbered and many have been redone. At least that is the way it is supposed to be, but I may have done it wrong, so please check. Gaps also exist in 3.8 (as well as 3.3). I put stuff in for the CQs. > > > > > > I am trying out making these available through ftp, rather than sending large emails. In part icular the figure file is over 20 MB. I have placed the 2 files on my ftp site at NCAR. I would be interested to know if you can access these OK? Do not send to others. > > > > > > People from outside can access the data by: > > > ftp [6]ftp.cgd.ucar.edu > > > cd /pub/trenbert/ > > > > > > The following is a listing of the two files there: > > > 1 cgdcas 20509184 Jul 8 16:26 Ch03_FOD_Figs8July.doc* > > > 1 cgdcas 903680 Jul 8 16:27 Ch03_FOD_text_2005_0708.doc* > > > > > > You can see the names and the size. > > > I think seeing a lot of new figures is actually exciting, but you will note some choices to be made. Roxana and Jim: I had to reshape 3.6 a bit but options still exist: see the layout as it sta nds and queries on Fig. 3.6.1. The figs are reduced to about final size. > > > > > > I still have not read a lot of the text, and new papers keep coming in. For instance a new pa per by Emanuel will soon appear in Nature on Hurricanes, and accommodations will be needed. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Kevin > > > > > -- > **************** > Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: [7]trenbert@ucar.edu > Climate Analysis Section, NCAR [8]www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ > P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 > Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) > > Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 -- David E Parker A2_W052 Met Office FitzRoy Road EXETER EX1 3PB UK email: [9]david.parker@metoffice.gov.uk Tel: +44-1392-886649 Fax: +44-1392-885681 Global climate data sets are available from [10]http://hadobs.org -- **************** Kevin E. Trenberth e-mail: [11]trenbert@ucar.edu Climate Analysis Section, NCAR [12]www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ P. O. Box 3000, (303) 497 1318 Boulder, CO 80307 (303) 497 1333 (fax) Street address: 1850 Table Mesa Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------