date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:28:48 -0000 from: "Myles Allen" subject: FW: TOR temperature reconstruction to: "Martin Juckes" , "Gabi Hegerl" , , "Keith Briffa" Greetings, We appear to be it. The original TOR suggested 80keuro might be available, and it seems we can reasonably bid for a fair chunk (up to all if it's justifiable) of that money. This suggests we could include some personnel costs as well as travel. I've already talked this over with Martin: would Gabi or Tim be interested, either in the form of salary support via your institutions or as direct sub-contractors (I'm easy either way)? I assume, from Keith's e-mail, that Keith only wants travel support. Myles Climate Dynamics Group Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department of Physics, University of Oxford Tel: 44-1865-272085/925 Fax: 44-1865-272923 E-mail: myles.allen@physics.oxford.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Bertjan Heij [mailto:Bertjan.Heij@rivm.nl] Sent: 09 February 2005 11:09 To: Myles Allen Cc: Ottelien van Steenis Subject: RE: TOR temperature reconstruction Dear Myles, I have approached the KNMI in the Netherlands but they don't have time at the moment. I also talked to a couple of paleoclimate people (also in the NL) but they are not really interested because of the short and recent period that is covered by the hockeystick. So, my request to you is to submit a proposal, together with the colleagues you've mentioned. I'll send you the proposal format and cost tables shortly. The proposal will be on the agenda for the next meeting of the Steering Committee, on 15 March. Do you think you can manage to send me your proposal on Thursday 10 March at the latest? If you need more information: please let me know. We have a 'Reader' for this type of projects, but unfortunately it is in Dutch. I'll read through it again and provide a translation of the most important issues. best regards, BertJan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change (NRP CC) P.O. Box 1 (pb 59) 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands tel.: 31 30 2743108 fax: 31 30 2744436 Hét platform voor klimaatkennis in Nederland: www.klimaatportaal.nl e-mail: bertjan.heij@rivm.nl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |---------+----------------------------> | | "Myles Allen" | | | | | | | | | 08-02-05 18:33 | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Bertjan Heij" | | cc: "Martin Juckes" , "Gabi Hegerl" , "Keith Briffa" , | | | | Subject: RE: TOR temperature reconstruction | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Dear Bertjan, After some very quick and informal consultations, I can confirm that myself, Martin Juckes (Rutherford Appleton Laboratory), Gabriele Hegerl (Duke University), Keith Briffa (University of East Anglia) and Tim Osborn (UEA) would be interested in the possibility of tendering for this activity. Our areas of expertise are statistical analysis (Allen), optimal estimation (Juckes), climate change detection (Hegerl), interpretation of tree-ring data (Briffa) and pattern-based climate reconstructions (Osborn). What is the procedure now? Are you envisaging competing bids from teams of experts, or would you like us to join forces with other experts you have approached? Myles Climate Dynamics Group Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department of Physics, University of Oxford Tel: 44-1865-272085/925 Fax: 44-1865-272923 E-mail: myles.allen@physics.oxford.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Bertjan Heij [mailto:Bertjan.Heij@rivm.nl] Sent: 07 February 2005 13:45 To: Myles Allen Subject: RE: TOR temperature reconstruction Dear Dr. Allen, I am looking for the best experts to undertake the whole assessment. In general, we try to invite a team of experts to undertake this kind of assessments. How many people? That depends also on the subject and the available 'pool' of experts. There are already a couple of experts too closely involved, as a party in the public debate, so I've asked the KNMI for suggestions. If you are interested to submit a proposal and if you have suggestions who to invite to join in: you are welcome! Regards, BertJan Heij -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change (NRP CC) P.O. Box 1 (pb 59) 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands tel.: 31 30 2743108 fax: 31 30 2744436 Hét platform voor klimaatkennis in Nederland: www.klimaatportaal.nl e-mail: bertjan.heij@rivm.nl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |---------+----------------------------> | | "Myles Allen" | | | | | | | | | 07-02-05 12:33 | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Bertjan Heij" | | cc: | | Subject: RE: TOR temperature reconstruction | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| This is indeed an interesting problem. Can you clarify, please, whether you are seeking volunteers to participate in such an evaluation exercise, or seeking proposals to undertake the whole six-month study? Climate Dynamics Group Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department of Physics, University of Oxford Tel: 44-1865-272085/925 Fax: 44-1865-272923 E-mail: myles.allen@physics.oxford.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Bertjan Heij [mailto:Bertjan.Heij@rivm.nl] Sent: 07 February 2005 11:22 To: Myles Allen Subject: TOR temperature reconstruction Dear Dr. Allen, I've got your name from our Met Office staff (KNMI, the Netherlands). They suggested that you might be interested in carrying out an assessment on reconstruction of temperatures of the past 1000 years (the 'hockeystick'). Attached you find the context (the subprogramme WAB of the Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change) and the Terms of Reference for the project . Please let me know whether you are interested to submit a project proposal, based on the TOR. Sincerely, BertJan Heij (See attached file: 10-10 TORlaatsteversie-EN.doc)(See attached file: wab internettekst rapinfo-engels.doc) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change (NRP CC) P.O. Box 1 (pb 59) 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands tel.: 31 30 2743108 fax: 31 30 2744436 Hét platform voor klimaatkennis in Nederland: www.klimaatportaal.nl e-mail: bertjan.heij@rivm.nl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ "Dit bericht en eventuele aangehechte bestanden zijn vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Ongeautoriseerde verstrekking of bekendmaking aan en gebruik door anderen zijn niet toegestaan. Als u dit bericht per vergissing hebt ontvangen wordt u verzocht dit onmiddellijk aan de afzender te melden en het bericht van uw systemen te verwijderen. 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