cc: Keith Briffa , Eystein Jansen date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:03:27 -0500 from: Henry Pollack subject: Re: Fwd: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD- template and FOD document to: Jonathan Overpeck Hi Peck, Eystein and Keith, Attached in Borehole SOD.doc is a 'rewrite' of the borehole stuff. You will recognize the 'rewrite', as it still addresses everything in the FOD draft sent to me, with much the same language. It is, however, an improvement in structure, and has a more balanced discussion. Keith, if you want more insight into why I have presented the material this way, I'll be happy to elaborate. The rewrite occupies lines 32-57 of page 6-30 SOD and lines 1-12 of page 6-31. Also attached is the full SOD template with the 'rewrite' and references inserted. It is not clear from your instructions that you wanted this to be done, but now you have it if you want it. Also attached are my replies to the reviewers of the FOD. I am sending everything today (Sunday), so everyone will get it as early as possible. Some additional comments in areas outside the narrowly defined 'borehole' section: In Figure 6.9b, I recommend removing the instrumental record prior to 1860, because it apparently represents only four European stations. The figure is captioned to represent the entire northern hemisphere. In section 6.6.2 Southern Hemisphere Temperature Variability page 6-32, lines 56-57: The two geothermal reconstructions shown, for southern Africa and Australia, do NOT indicate unusually warm conditions prevailing in the 20th century. Both reconstructions miss the rapid warming in the last two decades of the 20th century because many of the boreholes were logged prior to that excursion. The two reconstructions do match well the pre-1980 SAT trends. I discuss this in a paper now in review by J. Quaternary Sci., titled "Five centuries of climate change in Australia: the view from underground." The southern hemisphere is NOT discussed in Pollack and Smerdon (2004), which you have cited there. If you will find it helpful, I can scan the entire chapter and provide comments, but perhaps that could wait until you have passed the immediate deadline in front of you. Cheers, Henry ___ ___ Henry N. Pollack [ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics | \/ | Department of Geological Sciences |MICHIGAN| University of Michigan [___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A. Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690 e-mail: hpollack@umich.edu URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/ URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting Jonathan Overpeck : > Hi Henry - yes, it's true, but that's why we all get things done. Thanks. > > We have a serious space problem with the chapter, and need to > generally reduce it's size. However, if you nee a couple more lines > to do it well, and to get the proper refs in there (there are > undoubtedly new ones?), you may do so. We can always cut later... (so > don't add more than just a few lines max). > > As soon as you're done, pls email to me, Eystein and Keith. The > sooner Keith can finish the complete section, the sooner we can all > look at it and edit. > > The NAS/NRC mtg is at a crappy time. I can't travel then since I'm > alone w/ the kids, but I've been discussing helping by phone if > possible. The problem is that March 3 (the day they really want my > input) is the deadline for the SOD. If it's anything like last time > (FOD), I won't have time but for a quick trip to the bathroom now and > then to recycle coffee. But, I'm glad to hear you're in the loop. I > might still be able to help, since we're trying to do this so it > isn't a madhouse at the very end. > > Best, peck > >> Hi Peck, >> >> Yes, I will be working weekends -- don't we always?? >> >> Are you attending the NAS/NRC hearing on surface temperature >> reconstructions on March 2? >> >> I will take you up on the invitation to (re)write the 40 lines of the >> borehole section. >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> ___ ___ Henry N. Pollack >> [ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics >> | \/ | Department of Geological Sciences >> |MICHIGAN| University of Michigan >> [___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A. >> >> Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690 >> e-mail: hpollack@umich.edu >> URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/ >> URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html >> >> >> Quoting Jonathan Overpeck : >> >>> Hi Henry - see the notes below on how to best update your section >>> using the attached files (and comments you already have). >>> >>> Julie is flying to Germany tomorrow, so I'll be single-parenting and >>> my email will be at night on the weekend. If you have urgent need for >>> input, you can call me: >>> >>> 970-728-0780 (home) >>> 520-907-6480 (cell - only good if I'm in town - best to use home on >>> weekends, and cell weekdays) >>> >>> Thanks again, peck >>> >>>> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:59:33 +0100 >>>> To: wg1-ar4-ch06@joss.ucar.edu >>>> From: Eystein Jansen >>>> Subject: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD- template and FOD document >>>> X-BeenThere: wg1-ar4-ch06@joss.ucar.edu >>>> List-Id: >>>> List-Help: >>>> List-Post: >>>> List-Subscribe: , >>>> >>>> List-Archive: >>>> List-Unsubscribe: >>>> , >>>> >>>> Sender: wg1-ar4-ch06-bounces@joss.ucar.edu >>>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> In preparation for your rewriting of the FOD as SOD, we send you >>>> the following documents. >>>> 1. A new template for the FOD which is restructured so that the >>>> decisions on structure we made in Christchurch have been taken into >>>> account. We also send you the word version of the FOD which is the >>>> final version used for the review, in case you do not have this. >>>> This is the version for which the comments refer to. >>>> In the rewriting we would ask you to rewrite into the SOD template >>>> document, thus: >>>> 1. Find the relevant comment or section to be rewritten in the FOD. >>>> 2. Then the corresponding section in the SOD document, and rewrrite >>>> the text there. References should also be inserted into the SOD >>>> document. >>>> You have to work in parallel with both documents, but we do not see >>>> any way around this in order to arrive at a SOD without too many >>>> problems of technical sort. >>>> >>>> Cheers, and best luck. >>>> Peck and Eystein >>>> -- >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Eystein Jansen >>>> Professor/Director >>>> Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and >>>> Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen >>>> Allégaten 55 >>>> N-5007 Bergen >>>> NORWAY >>>> e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no >>>> Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 >>>> Fax: +47-55-584330 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wg1-ar4-ch06 mailing list >>>> Wg1-ar4-ch06@joss.ucar.edu >>>> http://www.joss.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/wg1-ar4-ch06 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonathan T. Overpeck >>> Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>> Professor, Department of Geosciences >>> Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences >>> >>> Mail and Fedex Address: >>> >>> Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>> 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >>> University of Arizona >>> Tucson, AZ 85721 >>> direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >>> fax: +1 520 792-8795 >>> http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >>> http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > > > -- > Jonathan T. Overpeck > Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > Professor, Department of Geosciences > Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > > Mail and Fedex Address: > > Institute for the Study of Planet Earth > 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor > University of Arizona > Tucson, AZ 85721 > direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 > fax: +1 520 792-8795 > http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ > http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ > > > Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Boreholes SOD.doc" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Ch06_SOD_1A2.doc" Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Pollack_comm.doc"