date: Fri Oct 15 12:07:01 2004 from: Phil Jones subject: Fwd: Re: our IJC manuscript to: d.lister@uea.ac.uk David, FYI -see the paras from Anders about Alexander. Phil X-Sender: anders@rossby.misu.su.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:54:10 +0200 To: Phil Jones From: Anders Moberg Subject: Re: our IJC manuscript X-UEA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UEA-MailScanner: Found to be clean Phil, I think sometime in the second half of November is realistic. By the way, Alexander and I have had some more struggle with the emulate database. It is constantly increasing in number of stations. We have now also included all ECA series and will put these under a separate file directory for internal use. This would be convenient for anyone in emulate who wishes to make analyses also for shorter periods and with better geographical spread of stations. Alex is also certainly going to be on board on Emulate during year 3 - but in Göteborg rather than in Wurzburg. Just heard from him today that he and his family will move to Sweden in February. He will work for Deliang and start his PhD studies there. Have a good time in Firenze. Coincidentially, my wife Birgitta will be at a meeting in Bologna the same week. However, the weather seems not to be very hot there at the moment, so don't only bring the shorts you had in Tarragona ;-) Cheers, Anders At 08:39 2004-10-15 +0100, you wrote: Anders, Fine, re colour. I have a new DoE grant now, so will pay from that. When you eventually send the paper back ask for a quote for the number of colour pages we might need. Hopefully less than about 1000 pounds. I'm off to Seattle tomorrow for a US DoE meeting for 3 days, then a week's holiday in Firenze - only have to give a talk to the MICE meeting there one day. Ruth and I looking forward to it. So, if you get a revised version of the paper to me sometime after Nov 1 that would be best. Cheers Phil Cheers Phil At 07:46 15/10/2004, you wrote: Phil, Sure, I agree with your suggestions! And, yes, we should use colour. I think you have told me some time that you could pay ;-) Cheers, Anders At 15:10 2004-10-14 +0100, you wrote: Anders, Thanks for replying to Aad so thoroughly whilst I've been away ! As for the comments, I was reading some responses Marie had made to two special issue papers from the SWURVE project. She did a good job of dismissing the reviewer's comments in a response to the editor and only ended up making a few changes to the manuscript. I say this as I suggest you follow the same route here. I think if you sent back a revised paper taking into account some/most of B's comments and just point out to Glenn (politely) that A doesn't know what they are talking about ! A's minor points are OK - are we going to use colour? Basically though A is living in another world. He/she has no idea because - just thinks the daily series are sitting out there (you could mention a little more about getting access to the series. It is partly a lack of digitised series and also national policies re availability). EMULATE will help, but there is so much more that could be done. - our paper title is roughly what we will call the section in IPCC report ! Globe instead of Europe. That will have no focus on the means, just the extremes. The current study is about extremes. There have been countless ones about the mean ! You could mention that a few studies have tried to link extremes to changes in the mean and variability, but this is really difficult because the quality and quantity of the data are not really up to it. The studies quoted have only looked at a couple of locations and used mainly model output. Hope you're in agreement with this. Cheers Phil At 15:27 11/10/2004, you wrote: Here is the deleted message: Phil, Just got the review of our extremes trend paper. It was posted on 22 Sep, s ito took long time from Britain to Sweden. I have posted photocopies of the review to you. Hope the return journey is much faster! In summary: Rev A found the study useful and careful, but wanted us to focus on EITHER precip OR temp, but on BOTH means AND extremes (ultimately leading to TWO papers). This would require lots of work, and I don't want to do this. Will have to argue against this - possibly by telling the editor that much more will be done in EMULATE. Rev A was also disappointed by the bad data coverage, e.g. no Iberian data. (EMULATE will help here...) Rev B had a number of points where he wanted us to deepen the discussion, but overall he thought the paper was GOOD. He also implicitly revealed himself as being Scandinavian and most likely he is Heikki Tuomenvirta. Tell me what you think when you have seen the review. 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