date: Fri May 29 14:01:14 2009 from: Phil Jones subject: Re: urgent easy - attribution of impacts nominations to: Gabi Hegerl , Thomas Crowley Gabi, Yes to dinner sometime - I have some new T-shirts! Matt wasn't that involved in UKCP09. James Murphy was the lead from the MOHC end. You can propose me! I am going to Venice. I would have gone to Bergen (for IPCC and extremes), but for an extremes meeting in Mexico. So do propose me! You might like to see the email below. I have raised this with Thomas. Most is a quote from a skeptic. We are still involved with an FOI about who changed what and why in Ch 6! Cheers Phil Hi Keith & Phil, I guessed right: David Holland does intend to obtain IPCC AR5 correspondence *during* the preparation of AR5 rather than afterwards: <[1]http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6040#comment-342457> "So far the Information Commissioners Office has tried to throw out two of my complaints and is sitting on the rest. The ICO is under resourced and overloaded and the EIR is a lot more trouble for them than the FOIA. We may have to go through two years of guerilla war but you can all join in. The point is not AR4 but to get precedence so as to get into AR5 information as soon as it is held. I doubt this point has escaped our friends at the IPCC." The bit about "you can all join in" has a link to whatdotheyknow.com, which assists people in making FOI requests. This encouragement of others to join his campaign/war might eventually help us, if it is enough to count as vexatious. Tim -- Dr. Tim Osborn RCUK Academic Fellow Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK [2]www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ At 13:17 29/05/2009, Gabi Hegerl wrote: Hi Phil, I am going too and Tom is accompanying me - we have to have dinner some point, would be nice!! expert meeting: would Matt be a good person to suggest from UKCP09, since you dont sound keen? (or are you happy to be proposed?) Gabi Phil Jones wrote: Gabi, A few thoughts. 1. A good person from WG2 is Tim Carter. tim.carter@ymparisto.fi David Karoly will know about him thru WG2. Tim would be a good contact for developing country scientists in the D&A field, but David would know them as well. 2. The UKCP09 climate change projections will be released on June 18 by DEFRA. There ought to be much media attention - unless there are more MP expenses revelations! UKCIP have some worked examples on impacts in the UK, but these aren't end-to-end. 3. I'm going to Venice next month - are you going? Not sure I want to get involved in another initiative in September. Cheers Phil PS Maybe we ca work the Turney consortium bid into something more focussed? PPS - I saw Tom's piece in the Guardian yesterday. At 12:10 29/05/2009, you wrote: Hi guys, David and I have been asked to come up with names for the impact attribution expert meeting to be held in Geneva, Sept 14 -16. It would really help us if you could give me a) an indication if you are interested in going and have something relevant to contribute (eg impact relevant WG1 type changes) b) if you know a good scientist from the impacts community who you think should be invited (please give me a few keywords on interest/expertise). Developing nations and generally underrepresented geographical locations would be particularly great to hear about thanks everybody! I NEED THIS BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEKEND apologies!!! 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