date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:57:12 +0000 from: Tim Osborn subject: Rutherford et al. [2004] to: Phil Jones ,k.briffa@uea.ac.uk Phil & Keith - I guess we just wait and see how things pan out over the Rutherford et al paper, though I was concerned that Mike was using this paper as a vehicle for publishing points first against Esper et al. and at a later stage also against McIntyre and McItrick - points that would be made better elsewhere. I'm uncomfortable about Rutherford et al. being made the main "rebuttal" of M&M - and it's disappointing that Mike never told me he'd withdrawn his formal response from Climatic Change (I've removed our web comment now, since no formal response seems to be on the horizon). The Wahl and Ammam paper should help here I guess. - Tim Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm