date: Mon Feb 7 16:00:07 2005 from: Keith Briffa subject: Re: FW: TOR temperature reconstruction to: "Myles Allen" , "Gabi Hegerl" , "Martin Juckes" Myles et al Thanks fot the offer .The subject is exercising many minds , and no doubt much parallel effort is underway to reassess the methodology and results of the Hockey Stick , and review the issues of anthropogenic versus natural forcing of millennium and recent climate change. The coming Moberg Nature paper , while not adding much to the Science, will likely fuel the discussion further. Not unexpectedly we (myself, Tim Osborn, and colleagues In the Hadley Centre and Germany ), will work on the issue . Already , problems with the Von Storch paper have been identified and a paper submitted by other German colleagues pointing this out. The money on offer from the call seems low and the time scale for the work tight. Hence, we would be happy to collaborate , but the level would perhaps be best kept low - Not that this is not of fundamental importance and priority , but because we are very committed and over the next 2 to 3 weeks , especially so , working on an EC proposal (that will contain a significant element of methodological work in this area). The bottom line then is that I and Tim would be happy to be named as collaborators (perhaps just wit a little money to cover attending a meeting?) but could not likely over-commit to a strict timetable. We will not be putting in a competing proposal. cheers Keith 14:55 07/02/2005, Myles Allen wrote: Dear Gabi, Keith and Martin, I have just received the enclosed invitation-to-tender from RIVM (perhaps you have received it as well). As it happens, both Gabi and I and Martin Juckes and I have been talking extensively about this issue, and Gabi and Martin have already (independently) made a good deal of progress. In case you haven't met, Martin is an expert in optimal estimation working at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory as well as here in Oxford. Would you be interested in responding to this call together? It would seem like a good opportunity to bring these strands together. Myles Climate Dynamics Group Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department of Physics, University of Oxford Tel: 44-1865-272085/925 Fax: 44-1865-272923 E-mail: myles.allen@physics.oxford.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Bertjan Heij [[1]mailto:Bertjan.Heij@rivm.nl] Sent: 07 February 2005 11:22 To: Myles Allen Subject: TOR temperature reconstruction Dear Dr. Allen, I've got your name from our Met Office staff (KNMI, the Netherlands). They suggested that you might be interested in carrying out an assessment on reconstruction of temperatures of the past 1000 years (the 'hockeystick'). Attached you find the context (the subprogramme WAB of the Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change) and the Terms of Reference for the project . Please let me know whether you are interested to submit a project proposal, based on the TOR. Sincerely, BertJan Heij (See attached file: 10-10 TORlaatsteversie-EN.doc)(See attached file: wab internettekst rapinfo-engels.doc) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Netherlands Research Programme on Climate Change (NRP CC) P.O. Box 1 (pb 59) 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands tel.: 31 30 2743108 fax: 31 30 2744436 Hét platform voor klimaatkennis in Nederland: [2]www.klimaatportaal.nl e-mail: bertjan.heij@rivm.nl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ "Dit bericht en eventuele aangehechte bestanden zijn vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Ongeautoriseerde verstrekking of bekendmaking aan en gebruik door anderen zijn niet toegestaan. Als u dit bericht per vergissing hebt ontvangen wordt u verzocht dit onmiddellijk aan de afzender te melden en het bericht van uw systemen te verwijderen. De werkgever van de afzender kan niet garanderen dat de verzonden en/of ontvangen informatie juist is en aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade die eruit kan voortvloeien." "This message and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential information and is solely intended for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized disclosure or actions taken in reliance on it are forbidden. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The employer of the sender does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto." -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [3]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/