cc: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:19:22 +0100 from: Eystein Jansen subject: Re: Figures - urgent to: Jonathan Overpeck , Keith Briffa I am in agreement with Keith, Peck, - that will be the best updated fig. Thanks again Tim for the stamina! Eystein At 10:19 -0700 17-02-06, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: >Hi - I agree w/ Keith. Makes sense to show all >the data, and I should have said "just like" 3B, >sorry. > >Look forward to seeing this one and the new caption too. Thanks! >best, peck > >>I suggest we go with the new (second one >>attached in Tim's message) , with the section >>from the Science paper under it. >>Keith >> >>At 17:00 17/02/2006, Tim Osborn wrote: >>>Hi Peck and Eystein, >>> >>>just working on this MWP box fig update. Just >>>trying to clarify what is wanted. >>> >>>The old MWP box fig had 8 series on it. 7 of >>>these were straight from our recent Science >>>paper anyway, and the 8th was the average of 2 >>>more from the Science paper. The other 5 in >>>the paper (making a total of 7+2+5 = 14 >>>series) were not used in the old MWP box fig, >>>as they are too short to cover the MWP period. >>> >>>(1) Are you asking me to use exactly the 14 >>>series from the Science paper, overlaid like >>>in the old MWP fig or, if space permits, >>>plotted like fig 1 in our Science paper. And >>>then add below the exact fig 3B of our paper >>>(you say "3b-like" which implied maybe some >>>changes). >>> >>>(2) Or do you want to stick with the original >>>8 series, and then have the exact fig 3B from >>>our paper, which wouldn't correspond exactly >>>to the 8 series above because it would be >>>based on the 14. >>> >>>(3) Or do you want to stick with the original >>>8 series, and then show a panel similar to our >>>fig 3B, but *recalculated* using just the 8 >>>series shown? >>> >>>So many questions! ;-) >>> >>>I attached the original MWP fig (8 series), >>>plus a new one from option (1) above (14 >>>series, looks a bit of a mess, also I removed >>>the "composite mean" which might have been >>>agreed in New Zealand?). >>> >>>Cheers >>> >>>Tim >>> >>>At 05:28 02/02/2006, Jonathan Overpeck wrote: >>>>Hi Tim and Keith - I have some feedback on >>>>the MWP box fig, but would to first ask that >>>>you update us (me and Eystein) about the >>>>status of your other figs. We have a >>>>particularly urgent need to see those that >>>>are likely to be elevated to the TS (Tech >>>>Summary) - a big deal for paleo. Can you >>>>promise us these by the end of this week, >>>>Monday at the latest? Again, see my emails of >>>>Dec for details. >>>> >>>>It would be great to see a new MWP box fig >>>>asap too, but this isn't as high priority as >>>>the TS figs. Eystein and I agree with both >>>>Susan and Martin that it would be good to see >>>>a new MWP box fig that was a hybrid of the >>>>old fig concept and the new Fig 3b from your >>>>Science paper. It would be good to have two >>>>versions - if space allows, we go with the >>>>first, otherwise the 2nd: >>>> >>>>Both would have your 3b-like plot, and both >>>>would have all the normalized time series >>>>that were used to create the 3b plot (i.e., >>>>those in Fig. 1 of your paper). >>>> >>>>Version 1 - has all the input series stacked >>>>on top of each other as in your Fig. 1, with >>>>the summary Fig 3b-like plot below. >>>> >>>>Version 2 - is the same, but the input series >>>>are all on the same axis like in the FOD MWP >>>>box fig. >>>> >>>>Now, if you think Version 1 plus caption >>>>would be smaller than Version 2 plus caption, >>>>no need for Version 2. Ditto if Version 1 >>>>plus caption was only a little bigger than V >>>>2 plus caption. >>>> >>>>Again, thanks for getting all of your new >>>>figs to us asap, particularly those targeted >>>>for TS consideration. >>>> >>>>Many thanks, Peck >>>>-- >>>>Jonathan T. Overpeck >>>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>>>Professor, Department of Geosciences >>>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences >>>> >>>>Mail and Fedex Address: >>>> >>>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >>>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >>>>University of Arizona >>>>Tucson, AZ 85721 >>>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >>>>fax: +1 520 792-8795 >>>>http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >>>>http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Dr Timothy J Osborn >>>Climatic Research Unit >>>School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia >>>Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK >>> >>>e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >>>phone: +44 1603 592089 >>>fax: +44 1603 507784 >>>web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ >>>sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm >> >>-- >>Professor Keith Briffa, >>Climatic Research Unit >>University of East Anglia >>Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. >> >>Phone: +44-1603-593909 >>Fax: +44-1603-507784 >> >>http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ > > >-- >Jonathan T. Overpeck >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >Professor, Department of Geosciences >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences > >Mail and Fedex Address: > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor >University of Arizona >Tucson, AZ 85721 >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065 >fax: +1 520 792-8795 >http://www.geo.arizona.edu/ >http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/ -- ______________________________________________________________ Eystein Jansen Professor/Director Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen Allégaten 55 N-5007 Bergen NORWAY e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 Fax: +47-55-584330