date: Fri Sep 26 17:03:28 2008
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Fwd: UNcertainty
to: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>, t.osborn@uea.ac.uk

    Keith, Tim,
       Just a few words to follow up our discussions. I'll be checking during next week,
    and you can also bring anything later out with you on Tuesday to Amsterdam.
       Emphasis for me is still Impacts (especially water), as this plays to CRU
    strengths in the obs data, access to model output (and UKCIP08) and the use
    of both in impacts models. We have some experience in the latter, much
    more than others in ENV.  One key aspect is being at the start of
    impact projects, so we can inform the sector of what is possible observationally
    and what the models can and can't do. Our experience in this comes from
    all the ECLAT workshops. Water was always the most organized of the sectors,
    as they were used to running catchment models.
       In some EPSRC projects we are looking at building design - future proofing
    the latest designs.
      In all these sectors when people consider climate change, they initially go
    to the people they usually deal with - engineers, architects.designers etc.
    Climate Change then has to fit in with what people normally do.
    Cheers
    Phil

   At 14:41 26/09/2008, Keith Briffa wrote:

     IN CONFIDENCE

     From: "Tim Jickells" <t.jickells@uea.ac.uk>
     To: <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>,
             "'J Andrews'" <J.Andrews@uea.ac.uk>,
             "'Alastair Grant'" <A.Grant@uea.ac.uk>,
             "'Burgess Jacquelin Prof \(ENV\)'" <Jacquie.Burgess@uea.ac.uk>,
             "'Andrew Watkinson'" <a.watkinson@uea.ac.uk>,
             "'Turner Kerry Prof \(ENV\)'" <R.K.Turner@uea.ac.uk>
     Subject: UNcertainty
     Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:33:39 +0100
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     I attach an attempt at trying to write up the discussion we had on Wednesday about a big
     idea for the VC for ENV. I have called it Uncertainty but given the possible resultant
     strap line of "we don't know what we're doing" I think we need a better title!. I have
     tried to imagine something that could stretch across much of ENV and in the process I
     have strayed into areas so far beyond my knowledge that there are heresies in here of
     considerable scale I suspect. I beg your indulgence and invite you to correct these and
     also consider if you still think this idea has merit in the cold light of day. I have
     aimed to keep this short and of course the devil is in the detail, but any pitch for the
     funding will initially deal with the idea not the detail. If there is a consensus to
     move this forward then we'll need to think how to do that.
     Tim
     Professor Tim Jickells
     School of Environmental Sciences
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich NR4 7TJ UK
     tel 01603593117, fax 01603 591327

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     Professor Keith Briffa,
     Climatic Research Unit
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
     Phone: +44-1603-593909
     Fax: +44-1603-507784
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   Prof. Phil Jones
   Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
   NR4 7TJ
   UK
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