cc: "Knutti Reto" , "Stott, Peter" , "Zwiers,Francis [Ontario]" , "Tim Barnett" , "Hans von Storch" , "Claudia Tebaldi" , "Phil Jones" , "David Karoly" , "Toru Nozawa" , "Ben Santer" , "Daithi Stone" , "Richard Smith" , "Nathan Gillett" , "Michael Wehner" , "Doug Nychka" , "Xuebin Zhang" , "Bamzai, Anjuli" , "Chris Miller" , "Tom Knutson" , "Tim Delsole" , "Susan Solomon" , "Jones, Gareth S" , "Tara Torres" date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:00:11 +0100 from: "Myles Allen" subject: RE: Meeting Jan 21-23 to: "claudia tebaldi" , "Gabi Hegerl" Hi All, That is a very good idea indeed. I was talking to Tom Stocker last week, arguing that resolving the differences in the definition of attribution between WG1 and WG2 was going to be one of the key challenges for AR5, particularly as attribution of impacts becomes a live topic as countries start to make the case for adaptation assistance. How about we invite the co-Chair of WG1 along as well? If we are going to invite Chris Field, we should definitely also invite someone from the "double attribution" community, or it will seem a bit like WG1 lecturing to the co-Chair of WG2. Any suggestions, David? Anjuli, has anyone in the US State Department (or whichever department will handle this) started addressing the question of how the US government will distinguish "impacts of climate change" from "vulnerability to natural climate variability" in allocating resources for adaptation assistance? If anyone has even started thinking about this problem, it would be very interesting to hear from them to know what questions they are likely to need answering. We could also try and find out if anyone in the European Commission is worrying about this. Regards, Myles -----Original Message----- From: claudia tebaldi [mailto:claudia.tebaldi@gmail.com] Sent: 13 October 2008 20:46 To: Gabi Hegerl Cc: Myles Allen; Knutti Reto; Stott, Peter; Zwiers,Francis [Ontario]; Tim Barnett; Hans von Storch; Claudia Tebaldi; Phil Jones; David Karoly; Toru Nozawa; Ben Santer; stoned@csag.uct.ac.za; Richard Smith; Nathan Gillett; Michael Wehner; Doug Nychka; Xuebin Zhang; Bamzai, Anjuli; Chris Miller; Tom Knutson; Tim Delsole; Susan Solomon; Jones, Gareth S; Tara Torres Subject: Re: Meeting Jan 21-23 Hi Gabi et al. I wonder if we could try to get Chris Field, who is going to be the chair of working group 2 for AR5...I don't know how likely it is to get him but it may be interesting to get his perspective on what was done in AR4 WG2 and what he would like to see in AR5 WG2. c On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gabi Hegerl wrote: > Hi IDAG people, > > Its time to start planning our next IDAG meeting in detail. A provisional > coarse agenda is attached. Please feel free to email me > suggestions to improve/update this, and if there is a topic you would love > to see covered but that isn;t please get in touch as well. > Also, we should have one topic related to the impacts review paper that is > to be written in year 2 of the grant. Therefore, if you > have a suggestion of a guest that would help us elucidate the challenges in > impact attribution but also to move forward on this, > please let me know! > Tara Torres from UCAR (tara@ucar.edu) will help us to plan the meeting. > Also, I hope to hire a student helper at Duke to get our meeting webpage > going, keep track of agenda items etc, but please bear with me > and tolerate a bit of chaos before we have succeeded with this! > > What I need from you is to please > - let me know if you can make it, and what you would vaguely like to speak > about (you can do the first now and postpone the second) > - get in touch with Tara to book your travel - ideally, towards the end of > October / or in early November (she is a bit buried right now) > - get in touch with me when you have suggestions, or want to bring somebody > > Gabi > > -- > Dr Gabriele Hegerl School of GeoSciences > The University of Edinburgh > Grant Institute, The King's Buildings > West Mains Road > EDINBURGH EH9 3JW Phone: +44 (0) 131 6519092, FAX: +44 (0) 131 668 3184 > Email: Gabi.Hegerl@ed.ac.uk > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > -- Claudia Tebaldi Research Scientist, Climate Central http://www.climatecentral.org currently visiting IMAGe/NCAR PO Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80305 tel. 303.497.2487