cc: date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:04:39 -0000 from: "Trevor Davies" subject: Re: Joint EPSRC/Carbon Trust initiative in low carbon innovation to: "Mike Hulme" , Mike, I think that John S is keen that the CCRP becomes fairly explicity linked with TYN. That was the original intention of course, until internal/external partner & workload issues took over. I would also be very happy about this. I think that the politics have become a little simpler now because of the SDC project going elsewhere. David King and John Lawton are very keen on CCRP. I met with EEDA & CT & as a result of that, the situation over the CT carbon officer post in the eastern region has been settled & I hope that this position will be (partially) based here. CT (Felgate) is keen on maintaining touch with CCRP. Given this & the fact that it that it is the most ambitious C reduction project (with the involvement of outfits like TXU, Powergen, CGNU, etc) it clearly does need to put in an expression of interest. I don't see that TYN cannot put in a bid. It will be silly ( & probably damaging) to put in two separate bids. I'm confident that we can find a formula which satisfies both parties. I hope that SS's ambivalence (my interpretation - since he has never responded to any of our communications) has been settled by the SDC experience. CCRP has demonstration, awareness-raising and research elements. With that wide a brief, I believe there is scope for an inventive - but ultimately acceptable - dovetailing. Do remember that the original intention was that CCRP will be located in ZICER. trevor PS I was at a meeting with the East of England Energy Group today (which actually has national membership). They are now partners with CCRP. They are aware of the plans for a new national Centre for Energy Research & would like to be involved somehow or other. Maybe useful in that rregard. ----- Original Message ----- From: [1]Mike Hulme To: [2]t.d.davies@uea Cc: [3]ros.pye@uea Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: Fwd: Joint EPSRC/Carbon Trust initiative in low carbon innovation Trevor, David Eastwood should have received this letter today. You can see from this EPSRC email that again Tyndall Centre provides us with something of a dilemma - do we want to make a Tyndall Centre submission drawing upon all our partners (Bates is offering to "bend the rules" for us), or does just UEA/NRP/EEDA want to initiate something, or do we want to do both, or do nothing at all? Either way, we need to make sure we all know what we are doing (cf. the SDC fiasco, which went to Entec, not Scott-Wilson). Bear in mind too that as part of SR2002, we know that very likely a new £20m plus initiative will take off during 2003/04 to establish a UK energy research centre along the lines of Tyndall (quote, Dave King and John Lawton) and we need to think how we play that one also. I am sounding out my Tyndall colleagues prior to any discussion we and UEA/NRP/EEDA may have. [ROS - please pass this message onto Prof. Eastwood] Mike From: Peter Bates To: "Mike Hulme (E-mail)" , "Simon Shackley (E-mail)" , "Elaine Jones (E-mail)" Subject: Joint EPSRC/Carbon Trust initiative in low carbon innovation Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:26:44 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Dear Mike, Simon, Elaine, At long last, a letter went out yesterday jointly from the Chief Executives of EPSRC and the Carbon Trust, informing University VCs about this new initiative. A copy of the text of the letter, and the one page enclosure that went with it, are enclosed for your interest. You will note that in this case we are specifically inviting one response from each university, reflecting the interest and expertise across relevant research groups. If after due consideration and consultation you want to make a submission from the Tyndall Centre - either instead of, or as well as, contributing to the submission from the relevant universities - then I'd be happy to discuss this with you. I look forward to hearing from you in due course! Best regards, Peter Peter Bates Engineering Sector Team Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council Polaris House North Star Avenue Swindon SN2 1ET Telephone 01793 44 4338 Local fax 01793 44 4187 e-mail peter.bates@epsrc.ac.uk <> <> ********************************************************************** Internet communications are not secure and therefore EPSRC does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the EPSRC unless specifically stated. All EPSRC staff can be contacted using Email addresses with the following format: firstname.lastname@epsrc.ac.uk **********************************************************************