cc: david.parker@metoffice.gov.uk, Stefan Bojinski , rudolf@dwd.de, konogi@naps.kishou.go.jp, "Thigpen, Richard" , David Goodrich date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:04:20 -0400 from: Thomas C Peterson subject: Re: potential new GSN stations to: Phil Jones Phil, et al., Pasted below are the count of number of observations from Bouvet Island. Clearly something is reporting from there and has been since 1994. Though there has been some gaps. -Tom January February March April May June July August September October November December R WMO Station Year HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M HLY SYN M 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1994 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 96 96 - 148 148 - 139 139 - 127 127 - 123 123 - 122 122 - 131 131 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1995 127 127 - 127 127 - 128 128 - 124 124 - 138 138 - 130 130 - 126 126 - 127 127 - 123 123 - 113 113 - 2 2 - 0 0 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1996 0 0 - 0 0 - 68 68 - 148 148 - 160 160 - 164 164 - 137 137 - 174 174 - 160 160 - 174 174 - 170 170 - 176 176 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1997 177 177 - 127 127 - 153 153 - 167 167 - 169 169 - 121 121 - 166 166 - 142 142 - 158 158 - 168 168 - 164 164 - 227 227 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1998 152 152 - 149 149 - 148 148 - 141 141 - 165 165 - 166 166 - 169 169 - 160 160 - 166 166 - 162 162 - 149 149 - 160 160 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 1999 103 103 - 83 83 - 67 67 - 105 105 - 137 137 - 123 123 - 131 131 - 130 130 - 116 116 - 135 135 - 145 145 - 150 150 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2000 141 141 - 119 119 - 356 356 - 344 344 - 331 331 - 316 316 - 314 314 - 314 314 - 287 287 - 195 195 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2001 0 0 - 0 0 - 242 242 - 403 403 - 397 397 - 388 388 - 400 400 - 397 397 - 387 387 - 386 386 - 378 378 - 390 390 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2002 386 386 - 344 344 - 395 395 - 409 409 - 410 410 - 379 379 - 440 440 - 448 448 - 405 405 - 380 380 - 350 350 - 389 389 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2003 303 303 - 209 209 - 217 217 - 266 266 - 316 316 - 239 239 - 16 16 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2004 293 293 - 382 382 - 376 376 - 377 377 - 400 400 - 419 419 - 354 354 - 426 426 - 378 378 - 403 403 - 375 375 - 408 408 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2005 387 387 - 500 500 - 561 561 - 546 546 - 537 537 - 553 553 - 597 597 - 593 593 - 535 535 - 574 574 - 551 551 - 564 564 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2006 21 21 - 64 64 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 420 420 - 519 519 - 516 516 - 510 510 - 538 538 - 1 689920 BOUVET ISLAN 2007 528 528 - 463 463 - 154 154 - 0 0 - Phil Jones said the following on 6/19/2007 9:25 AM: Tom, There's a few more for Dick to follow up. I guess we should prioritize these in some way. These are just numbered not prioritized! Dick was already looking at - AOPC conclusions. 1. Borneo 2. Yemen 3. Interior of Greenland - the GRIP ice core location (one for BAS) 4. Falklands (Mt Pleasant Apt, so the Met Office in the UK). 5. Diego Garcia (Chagos Archipelago - again Met Office). 6. South Georgia (BAS) 7. Peru (Dick was going to contact Corpac) of the new ones that Tom has suggested: 1. Midway Island 2. Aleutians 3. Micronesia (all these three are US run, so contact Howard?) 4. Belize (there are stations there) 5. Solomon Islands (is the coup over?) Are these additions OK Dick? Bouvet Island is uninhabited (its Norwegian by the way). I think we can ignore the Antarctic as we're working on the AWSs with Wisconsin. We should also ignore Franz Joseph Land and northern Russia. Also ignore the Horn of Africa (too difficult politically). We have one on Cuba? DRC is too difficult and reopens the U/A possibility. I think the Sandwich Islands are now Hawaii? I think Tom may be thinking of South Georgia from the map. Cheers Phil At 16:58 18/06/2007, [1]david.parker@metoffice.gov.uk wrote: Tom That was a useful exercise! How about adding Diego Garcia 7°19'S, 72°25'E? ? If the (South) Sandwich Islands in the S Atlantic don't turn out to have many data, an alternative could be South Georgia 37° W, 54.5° S, though the data from there - which show on your map - may be intermittent also. Regards David On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:22 -0400, Thomas C Peterson wrote: > Dear AGG, > > At the last AOPC meeting, we were looking at a map of GSN stations > and discussing where else we should seek GSN. As I recalled we decided > to sic (is that the right term?) Dick on Yemen and Indonesia (for > Borneo). I made a note to myself to find out where stations are > transmitting GTS messages that we don't have GSN. Larry Griffin (who > retired last month) creates a list summarizing all the GTS reports NCDC > receives. I went through that list and plotted in red all the stations > that transmitted something in 2006 or 2007 (all that I could find in Pub > 9 Volume A - about 1,000 stations that sent something over the GTS > during that time were not listed in Volume A). I then plotted the GSN > stations in blue. We can look at the attached map and see remote > locations where we don't have a GSN station but evidently there is a > station reporting over the GTS. My assessment is that the GSN has > potential to improve by adding stations from: > > Midway Island > the far end of the Aleutian Islands > Sandwich Islands > Bouvet Island > Solomon Islands > Democratic Republic of Congo > Cuba > Falkland Islands > the Caribbean coast of Belize or Honduras > the Horn of Africa > Franz Josef Land off the north coast of Russia > interior and northern Greenland > Micronesia > (and, of course, Yemen and Borneo) > > I didn't check the details about what reports were sent or for how > long. Some of these may be seasonal research observations. But many > are likely well worth further investigation. Did I miss any holes that > you can see &/or list any that any of you think are too small to be > worth bothering about? (Antarctica? central Algeria?) > > Regards, > Tom -- David Parker Met Office Hadley Centre FitzRoy Road EXETER EX1 3PB UK E-mail: [2]david.parker@metoffice.gov.uk Tel: +44-1392-886649 Fax: +44-1392-885681 [3]http://www.metoffice.gov.uk Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [4]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Thomas C. Peterson, Ph.D. NOAA's National Climatic Data Center 151 Patton Avenue Asheville, NC 28801 Voice: +1-828-271-4287 Fax: +1-828-271-4328