cc: Phil Jones date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:54:27 +0100 from: kate.willett@metoffice.gov.uk subject: Re: Downward trend in relative humidity over land? to: Adrian.Simmons@ecmwf.int Over land I found non-significant and very small decadal trends, with the Northern Hemisphere trend actually being slightly positive. (G = -0.03, NH = 0.07, T = -0.10 and SH = -0.34 - SH data is very sparse and likely of low quality). In contrast, the Marine data showed very significant negative trends but I'm highly suspicious about the pre-1982 data which has a strong positive bias relative to the rest of the timeseries. The climatology period and possibly the way that anomalies are obtained differ for HadCRUH (1974 to 2003) although I'm guessing this should have little effect. The scale on my plots is large and so its perhaps difficult to see any trends and I agree that the additional 3 years in the ERA data bring make the negative trend clearer. I have had problems with different trend fitting techniques giving more/less attention to end points of the series and so giving very different trends. Ideally it would be nice if ERA and HadCRUH were in good agreement but I think it may be realistic that they are not given the variability in RH over land and the likely very different ways that RH is derived for both. I like the idea of a rough sanity check to see if the q and RH changes in ERA are consistent. For HadCRUH I did a very rough version of percentage change in q for 1K increase in T using the idea that for constant RH a ~7% increase in q would be expected. Results suggest global land q increases are consistent with constant RH (~7%), NH land q increases suggest a slight increase in RH (~8 %) and Tropics land q increase suggest a decreasing RH (~5.5 %). Not sure if all the above is helpful or just rambling. I think presenting the plots at Boulder is a good idea though. Kate Dr Kate Willett Climate Research Scientist Met Office Hadley Centre, FitzRoy Road, Exeter, EX1 3PB tel. +44 1392 884288 fax +44 1392 885681 (mark for my attention) www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs